Best Honda ATV
#61
If I had the choice Id buy a Honda Sled, Honda Ski, Honda Side x side, Honda Sport wheeler, Honda 4x4, Honda Hovercraft, Honda Golf Cart, Only been stranded once in a honda and it was my own fault. I always find my self building a Honda not fixing them. Reliability is Key. JMHO
#62
that's a myth.
efi engine's are ready to go within seconds of starting- and the engine oil warms quicker when being ridden. efi actually allows the cold engine to start with lower rpm's, unlike choking a cold carbed engine, which instantly starts at 2500 rpm because of the choke. A cold engine sustains more wear in the first few seconds of being started than a warm engine does being run for hours. newer efi engines are designed to alleviate cold start wear.
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efi engine's are ready to go within seconds of starting- and the engine oil warms quicker when being ridden. efi actually allows the cold engine to start with lower rpm's, unlike choking a cold carbed engine, which instantly starts at 2500 rpm because of the choke. A cold engine sustains more wear in the first few seconds of being started than a warm engine does being run for hours. newer efi engines are designed to alleviate cold start wear.
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#63
newer efi engines are designed to alleviate cold start wear.
So not a EFI does not warm up motor oil any quicker.
#65
Do not hammer any 'cold' engine/motor whether it has fuel injection or carb.
You'll hear opinions to the contrary from 'the un-informed' here.
Let the motor warm up a few minutes, get a bit of heat in the cylinder and head, and take a moment to look at your quad for any other issues.
Some 'advisers' here may be better at drinkin' suds than giving intelligent advise.
#66
Agree 100% ....
Do not hammer any 'cold' engine/motor whether it has fuel injection or carb.
You'll hear opinions to the contrary from 'the un-informed' here.
Let the motor warm up a few minutes, get a bit of heat in the cylinder and head, and take a moment to look at your quad for any other issues.
Some 'advisers' here may be better at drinkin' suds than giving intelligent advise.
Do not hammer any 'cold' engine/motor whether it has fuel injection or carb.
You'll hear opinions to the contrary from 'the un-informed' here.
Let the motor warm up a few minutes, get a bit of heat in the cylinder and head, and take a moment to look at your quad for any other issues.
Some 'advisers' here may be better at drinkin' suds than giving intelligent advise.
many of us "sud drinking uninformed advisers" have quite a background in mechanics.
#67
"Do not hammer any 'cold' engine/motor whether it has fuel injection or carb."
Let the motor warm up a few minutes, get a bit of heat in the cylinder and head, and take a moment to look at your quad for any other issues."
Good advise and common sence.
To clarify as I see it:
The guy said that efi helps reduce wear because it starts at a lower rpm than a carb that is choked.
That makes sense to me also.
There are pro's and cons on everything but in general,Efi is just plain better.
We will run carbs or efi whatever is on the quad we want.
I'm going to sit back now and drink a beer.
Let the motor warm up a few minutes, get a bit of heat in the cylinder and head, and take a moment to look at your quad for any other issues."
Good advise and common sence.
To clarify as I see it:
The guy said that efi helps reduce wear because it starts at a lower rpm than a carb that is choked.
That makes sense to me also.
There are pro's and cons on everything but in general,Efi is just plain better.
We will run carbs or efi whatever is on the quad we want.
I'm going to sit back now and drink a beer.
#70
I state my point and will debate my point of view to anyone who wants to have an intelligent discussion on the subject.
what I see in this thread, is what I run across when I hear most people discuss efi vs carb motors- a lack of knowledge and a mediocre understanding on 4-stroke principals. I have a secondary education in auto / diesel mechanics and have owned & built dozens of engines over the last 20 years on a personal & professional level.
I was employed by Detroit Diesel for many years to rebuild diesel / gasoline engines and have spent countless hands-on hours with master technicians specifically on this subject alone. I even spent 5 months with R&D running engines in environmental testing chambers where engines were run to extreme temps on both ends of the scale, vibrated for days on end and then run with gasoline blends until they failed.
go read a few college level books (not magazines) on auto mechanics, fuel atomization, fuel injection and carburetor systems, purpose & principals on choke / enrichener circuits and engine lubrication- then I'll discuss my position on efi a bit more.
I know what I know- and offer advice based on what I've been taught and experienced by people much smarter then "did you step in something" or you- Got something to teach me? then state your facts, explain your theory and why it's better- disprove what I've been taught and then maybe I'll digress and consider your points- until then, you're just a big mouth.





