Foreman = Limited Slip
Rancher = Torque Sensing, "AP"-type
Rubicon = Torque Sensing, "don't know what"-type

...hmmm.

dan

 

Dude, not sure where you get your info but it is wrong. The Rubicon will have the new AP differential.

 

ATVING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY MAN THESE GUYS ARE RIGHT THE AP IS THE TORQUE SENSING AND THE RANCHER AND THE RUBICON ARE BOTH THE SAME AP TORQUE SENSING. THE FOREMAN AS OF YET DOES NOT HAVE THE NEW FRONT END YET. I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD CALM DOWN AND RE READ THE ENTIRE POST AND THINK OF HOW MUCH MORE POLITE YOU CAN BE NEXT TIME.

 

WHY DOESN'T ATVING GO TO THE POLARIS PAGE WHERE HE WOULD RATHER BE? MAYBE THERE ISN'T ENOUGH INTELLIGENCE, OR MAYBE HE JUST LIKES TO STIR THE POT. WE ALL KNOW HE DOESN'T LIKE HONDAS, SO JUST LET IT DROP MAN. SECRETLY INSIDE I BELIEVE HE IS SORRY HE HAS A POLARIS,AS MOST ARE THAT DO, AND HE IS JEALOUS. THERE IS A NAME FOR SECOND PLACE AND IT'S "FIRST PLACE LOSER".

 

WHY DOESN'T ATVING GO TO THE POLARIS PAGE WHERE HE WOULD RATHER BE? MAYBE THERE ISN'T ENOUGH INTELLIGENCE, OR MAYBE HE JUST LIKES TO STIR THE POT. WE ALL KNOW HE DOESN'T LIKE HONDAS, SO JUST LET IT DROP MAN. SECRETLY INSIDE I BELIEVE HE IS SORRY HE HAS A POLARIS,AS MOST ARE THAT DO, AND HE IS JEALOUS. THERE IS A NAME FOR SECOND PLACE AND IT'S "FIRST PLACE LOSER".

 

Hondafirst first of all I am not sorry I have a polaris and I do like Honda glad you know it all that you can tell what someone likes, because I write a post asking about what kind of front end the rubicon has or reply on why Honda didn't put some of the added features on doesn't mean I don't like them I was probably riding Hondas when you were a twinkle in someones eye. And the funny thing about this all the Honda guys jumped me about this question and it is still not clear between you Honda guys just what is what on the front ends...geez grow up because someone voices there opinion on what they think a bike is or will be doesn't mean they are bashing it maybe you are a little jealous your honda doesn't have all the stuff a Polaris does...your the one crying not me...And Booger and one of the other guys...thanks that is what I was wondering about I wasn't trying to tell anybody what kind of front end they had on their bike, I was just repeating what was being distributed on different web sites on the internet and some of the info came from the HOnda site...figger that

 

atving

let me clear this up for you for about the tenth time in this thread

RANCHER------- AP SURE-TRAC

450s,es------- LIMITED SLIP.....plain ole limited slip

RUBICON-------will be tourque sensing. probably the AP sure-trac, or one of honda's own desings.

did you even read the preceding posts? it doesn't seem like it. otherwise what kind of front ends are on our quads would be [blue]CRYSTAL[/blue] clear. but you see what you want to see and remember only what you want to remeber. can't you abmit that you have no idea what you are/were talking about?!?!?!? you said the foreman had the AP dif. on it and that you researched this. show me where you found that the foreman has the ap system. i don't know why i am even responding to this. you are so thick skulled you will not admit you are wrong.

 

Well Cartman nobody was calling you ignorant if anybody would know what kind of front ends are on your bike, I would say you guys do...what started all this and I am repeating I did a search in metacrawler for Honda Rubicon as I was reading from the various sites I noticed discrepancys on what Honda was reporting and other sites, I didn't know that AP was a brand name I thought that was part of the name of the torque sensing front end. If you thought I was implying you were ignorant I am truly sorry I really just wrote this post to find out if it was a mistake on the reporting on the other web sites, which it must have been you really should do a search on metacrawler and read some of the results of the reporting of the Rubicon man have some of these sites got there wires crossed...putting this to an end I am glad to hear Honda is putting the front end off the rancher on the Rubicon if they could get a 2 to 4 wheel drive switch going for this bike I might just be able to do without the disc brakes and the IRS cause if you had lockers on it I know it would be a real hill climber I just hope honda has the water cooling worked out with it being on the bike for the first year. NOBODY was trying to put this bike down from this post I was really wondering where some of these sites get this info do the search if you don't believe me one site even said it would be belt drive hehehe.

 

i accept you apology. but what shoud i take from this......

Is that right cartman well this is copied from the honda site seems you know more than they do now who needs to get there facts straight, here is whats on the honda site under rancher:

doesn't sound like this is the AP to me the rancher has the torque sensing front end that is the new front end that is suppose to deliver the power to the wheel that is not spinning apparently you are the one who needs to get there facts straight.


sounds to me like you told me i didn't have this system on my quad.

 

Well Cartman one site I read at said the rancher had the AP front end and the other site said torque sensing instead of both sites reporting that it was the AP torque sensing front end is what confused me...I never pretended to know more about this subject till a bunch jumped down my back on here one being you...If you would have took the time to explain this to me in the first place I wouldn't have been so confused...now maybe you can see that I really was just wondering what front end they were putting on the Rubicon, people get things so twisted on here people think because you talk about what a bike lacks and next thing you know your a Honda Hater...Let me show you how much I hate Honda I am almost 42 years old I have owned 70cc atc Honda trail, a 90cc Honda trail you know the one taht looks like a girls bike, a 750cc magnum a 1100cc sabre a 360cc chopper and few more honda trail bikes these are just some of the hondas I have owned in my life time...this doesn't sound like a Honda Hater to me does it you...I truly hope honda continues to improve the rubicon for now though the way it is set up and designed it just wouldn't fulfill my needs...and I am no Honda Hater, ask some of the Polaris guys before I bought a Polaris I used to give them a hard time about various issues about the Polaris and now I own one. Was I giving them a hard time about the Polaris because I was a Polaris Hater no I just discussed with them what could be improved to make the Polaris a better machine and now I own one. Who knows if Honda adds a 2 to 4 wheel drive lever I may be a future owner after they get over this limited edition kick and the price comes down within reason. But I am happy to hear that Honda did put the rancher front end on the Rubicon, now the only issue is, is that front end proving out to be what it is bragged up to be????