yeah to tell you the truth, I am about 9 years shy of being half that age, and I never saw duty their 6 or 7 other countries and all within the past 10 years or so!

 

Just my point! Easy to read......personal experience can't be baught....My father-in-law lived the experience,you and I didn't.He survived,(20) out of a 200 man company that landed on the beach(Tarawa).Living an experience and reading about it is a big difference. Me? '67-'68- Tet offensive...lived through it.

 

In reference to the OP, you can get army surplus 3-D camouflage netting and cover the ATV. When it's parked cover the whole thing and it's not even shaped like an ATV.

 

The best army surplus that I ever spent a dime on,was a U.S Machete that was made in Canada.Heavy back bone that can trim a tree,or cut a sapling with one swing.They are good for shooting lanes and clearing out a spot to set up a blind.I use it to cut natural tree limbs and grasses to cover up my vehicles or self.Even in places like Texas with their senderos and brush country it has a place.

 

I never refferenced the actual conflict or tried to take anything from any of the vets that served in Tarrawa, my hat goes off to them and to vets like yourself who served in Vietnam, All truth being said, Our present military is nothing if not a excellent student of history, many of our current tactics from patrolling to sniping are derived from vets like yourself and your father-in-law, as in we have learned from what you guys had to do to survive, and as it was a very steep price to pay I think it is safe to say that all of the members of our current military greatly appreciate all that our vets have given for us to learn these lessons.

What I was referring to. is the technilogical difference between now and then, The firearms have advanced by leaps and bounds not to mention our optics I.E. laser,Thermal,Night,reflective, and video, because of these advances their has been a serious need for better camoflauge such as the ghillie, non reflective, and thermal suits.

The best and most basic example I can give for this is the militaries switch from basic OD utilities to woodland and then to digital patterns, basically it's basic evolution, what was good and effective back then will basically impede your chances of winning today. with time all things will change and eventually cannot be compared.

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: pwillie

The best army surplus that I ever spent a dime on,was a U.S Machete that was made in Canada.Heavy back bone that can trim a tree,or cut a sapling with one swing.They are good for shooting lanes and clearing out a spot to set up a blind.I use it to cut natural tree limbs and grasses to cover up my vehicles or self.Even in places like Texas with their senderos and brush country it has a place.</end quote></div>

Ontario Knife Company is actually in New York, not Canada. They've been making knives and machetes for our military for over half a century, all in New York. For $1 more than the G.I. machete I got the sawback model. Now I have a different Ontario, and a Cold Steel machete. Cold Steel makes over a dozen different kind and they're sharper than the Ontarios.

If I cut any branches off trees on public land to clear a shooting lane, build a blind, etc. I can be fined for each tree I cut. The MI DNR doesn't like our natural resources getting chopped up.

 

One of my roommates was happy when we switched from green fatgues to camouflage BDUs. He could go <u>a lot longer</u> without changing his uniform because it didn't look dirty. Too bad he started smelling like wet sheep and manure after awhile. If he was in combat they might smell him before they saw him.

 

Being able to walk the woods and slip up on a deer or turkey is the best camo.I know people you can put in any woods and they can take game animals,and I know some you could put in a zoo and couldn't take game.

 

What tribe and what degree of Indian pwillie?

 

Descendent of Chief Weatherfords daughter cindy (Weatherford)Creel....Alabama Creek Nation,fought Gen. Jackson at the battle of Horse shoe bend.Jackson was so impressed of his valor he paroled and freed him from capture.Commonly called "Red Eagle"...even fought against Davy Crockett when he was with Jackson.He also owned a trading post and helped murder close to 500 settlers at Fort Mims,Al. 6th generation.Some kin folks went to Oklahoma on th etrail of tears during the removal.Most of this was taken from my moms bible.