Robbers... LOL

I say robbers get the PSE Baby G... LOL

 

deer 30-06
elk archery or 300
coyotes thompson contender 7mmtcu all the way

 

My stainless 9mm Rugar KP89, to bad it's not YELLOW - [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

 

My Glock 27; .40 caliber with '+2' magazine.

Small, concealable, dependable; with sufficient 'knock down' power.

After that, any autoloader shotgun. What more do you need?

Also have a Sig Sauer S.S. 9 mm. and a S/W DAO .45

John

 

**** Remington 710 30-06 bolt action 3x9 bushnell **** Bought new today 10/19/02
Remington 742 30-06 carbine semi-auto 4x12 bushnell
Knight American Knight 50 cal Smokepole 3x9 Tasco
CVA Bobcat 50 cal Smokepole
New England 12 Guage single shot
Savage 22 Semi Auto
JC Higgins 30-06 bolt

 

Multi-purpose big game, 7mm Mag Ruger M77
In Illinois, my 870 12 ga. w/rifled barrel and sabots for deer
Squirrels or plinking - Remington mod. 580 .22 single shot

 

GLOCK the only way for "crowd control" (FOR ALL YOU SAND MONKEYS)

 

Colt77~

I am by no means an expert in shotguns. In my neck of the woods a fella ussually uses a shot-gun for close quarter bear protection. As a result you don't do anything less than a 12-guage.

I would guess that if you want a shotgun that will do those things with minimal kick you will probably be limited to a 20-gauge. Even then you will notice some 'punch'.

As for a rifle, most of the slower 30 calibers wont even penetrate the hide of some of our game animals at 150 yrds.

I'm sure a lot of guys up here have 'varmit' caliber rifles. It's just that most don't admit it.

Heck, There was a fella that shot a sow grizzly on a fishing river this last month. No one was too concerned about the fact that he had to shoot the animal, even though she had a cub with her. The bottom line is that she charged the fisherman. The biggest gripe most of us locals have is that it it took 11 shots from a Glock 9mm to put her down.

Stupid people who carry a 'gang-bangers' piece up here for self-protection do nothing but get other people hurt or killed. The odds are too hight that they wont kill the Grizzly, only wound him for someone else to have to deal with.

The majority of handguns for that application are 41 caliber or bigger. Personally I carry either a 454 Cassull or a 475 Limbough revolver. The wife carries the 44 mag.

I don't know if this helps or not. I probably went out on a limb on the shotgun thing.

 

For a "kickless" shotgun (which doesn't exist), the best option would be to probably go with a semi-automatic gas-operated 20 or 12 gauge. If you plan on going for deer the 20 gauge will do it but I'd highly recommend going with a 12 gauge for that extra knockdown power. I used to have a Remington 1100 Magnum and it was the sweetest shooting shotgun I've ever owned. I could put in a 2 3/4" duck/pheasant magnum shell and shoot it from the hip without any problems, and I'm not particularly resistant to recoil. In my opinion Remington makes very good quality firearms and if you want a truly multi-purpose shotgun then buy the model 11-87. They cost a bit but you can load any combination of light and heavy rounds into the gun and they'll eject/load each other with no problems unlike the older model 1100.

 

Chuckybrown, you will love the 270wsm. I have three Browning Stainless Stalkers .223, .243, and a .300 winchester short mag. which I just finished breaking in. It had a little kick to it but I put a Pachmayr Decelerator pad on and it kicks like a normal ..270 now.