New Prairie CDI
#21
New Prairie CDI
Half baked?! well, yeah, that's true ;-). I did it in about 30 min because I wanted to get the info out to you guys as soon as possible.
You did hit on something important NYROC, I didn't put much 'opinion performance data' on the pages. The reason is that I haven't had good enough weather to do some runs with the Tazzo. I'd like to have some information that is at least repeatable by someone with the same mods I have. As soon as we get a weekend that is in the 40* range, I’ll do some runs and post the data. My plan is to do the same runs with both the stock and the Dyna CDI. Unfortunately all I can tell you right now is my opinion – it kicks butt.
The empirical information that I can give is this:
- It is a direct replacement and fits without modification
- It works flawlessly
- I had no ride-ability or operating issues
- It’s been wet, muddy and frozen on my Prairie without issue
The new CDI is not programmable.
I don’t know if it is going to be introduced at Indy, but I will ask.
Peace,
Sgt_Rock
You did hit on something important NYROC, I didn't put much 'opinion performance data' on the pages. The reason is that I haven't had good enough weather to do some runs with the Tazzo. I'd like to have some information that is at least repeatable by someone with the same mods I have. As soon as we get a weekend that is in the 40* range, I’ll do some runs and post the data. My plan is to do the same runs with both the stock and the Dyna CDI. Unfortunately all I can tell you right now is my opinion – it kicks butt.
The empirical information that I can give is this:
- It is a direct replacement and fits without modification
- It works flawlessly
- I had no ride-ability or operating issues
- It’s been wet, muddy and frozen on my Prairie without issue
The new CDI is not programmable.
I don’t know if it is going to be introduced at Indy, but I will ask.
Peace,
Sgt_Rock
#22
#23
New Prairie CDI
The Prairie igniter was so complicated to make, only someone like Dyna or MSD could afford to make it happen, since they already make similar devices, and have a staff of Engineers to work on it, hardware, software, testing, etc. How could a small company beat them with a limited budget and one Design Engineer? I am glad one of the bigger companies finally took interest, but I hope the smaller ones continue to make the smaller and cheaper things that the big companies would never even start working on. I can't wait to see how Dyna's igniter compares to Mickey D's or Procomms.
#24
New Prairie CDI
Too bad it isn't programmable like the Dyna's I run on my banshees. The programmability is awesome.
To anyone interested in it: Dyna's customer service is second to none!!! I have sent back two of their ignitions because I thought they had problems and they sent me new ones each time no-questions asked. They tested the ignitions for free and mailed out new ones. Come to find out, the problem was that I wasn't running resistor spark plugs! So it was my fault the ignition messed up anyway. Their products are great.
Remember, RUN RESISTOR PLUGS!!!!!!
To anyone interested in it: Dyna's customer service is second to none!!! I have sent back two of their ignitions because I thought they had problems and they sent me new ones each time no-questions asked. They tested the ignitions for free and mailed out new ones. Come to find out, the problem was that I wasn't running resistor spark plugs! So it was my fault the ignition messed up anyway. Their products are great.
Remember, RUN RESISTOR PLUGS!!!!!!
#29
New Prairie CDI
You can't easily use the 700 CDI on a 02 650 because the plugs are different. If you had wiring diagrams, you couldhard wire a 700 CDI to an 02 650 (or vice versa). The 03 650 plug is like the 700.
Kawasaki engineers have said that 32 degrees is optimal. If you use a key with a high enough offset, you may wind up losing power. I don't know how much timing you need to loose power, but it depends on fuel octane, quality, RPM, humidity. If you have a 4 degree key, it may not do anything. I would probably take an 8 or 10 degree key out. One of these high tech gizmo guys mentioned that he ran 45 degrees once. Nothing bad happened, not even pinging, but he lost a lot of power.
Kawasaki engineers have said that 32 degrees is optimal. If you use a key with a high enough offset, you may wind up losing power. I don't know how much timing you need to loose power, but it depends on fuel octane, quality, RPM, humidity. If you have a 4 degree key, it may not do anything. I would probably take an 8 or 10 degree key out. One of these high tech gizmo guys mentioned that he ran 45 degrees once. Nothing bad happened, not even pinging, but he lost a lot of power.
#30
New Prairie CDI
I posted a link to this thread on the H/L forum, very early this morning. Needless to say, it was deleted by noontime. "Competitive advertizing rules", they said. More like "Oh no!! What are we going to do with all these modules" ??!![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img] I thought discussing a new product would be allowed! Anyone else want to try posting it at H/L?