DG3 or HL ICM for B.F.
#21
DG3 or HL ICM for B.F.
Without that little pink wire not hooked up the cdi will not be able to advance the timing at higher rpms your performance will be grossly hampered. If you have a red spring in your machine it will negate the benefits of the module. Also if your module does not work try talking with manufacturer I am very sure they will send you a new one!!
#22
DG3 or HL ICM for B.F.
you must have somthing wired wrong i installed mine and it was the best money ive spent it pulls weelies easier than my kfx 700 does not seem to do any thing for top end i put a cdi on my kfx 700 and it did absolutely nothing in timed runs drag races or any thing else worthless so i was skeptical on buying this module but it is the best thing ive ever used
#23
DG3 or HL ICM for B.F.
Originally posted by: NewBF750rider
I called Diamond G and they don't have a dg3 anymore but a new one dg5. He said it makes over 7 horsepower more on the stock brute. I find that kinda hard to beleive for only 139 bucks. Are they pulling my leg or not? I am also looking at the other modules from HL and dyno. They said it has onand off switch build in it to, but I don't understand what would happen if it were off? Anybody have one of these things on a brute?
I called Diamond G and they don't have a dg3 anymore but a new one dg5. He said it makes over 7 horsepower more on the stock brute. I find that kinda hard to beleive for only 139 bucks. Are they pulling my leg or not? I am also looking at the other modules from HL and dyno. They said it has onand off switch build in it to, but I don't understand what would happen if it were off? Anybody have one of these things on a brute?
The switch just switches the module back to stock form. You can take any module and hook a switch to it. You need a SPDT (single pole, double throw switch). Wire the pink wire going to the CDI to the center terminal of the switch, and then wire the module to one outside terminal of the switch, and the other end of the pink wire to the other outside terminal of the switch. So, in one position, the speedo feeds the CDI with the actual speed, in the other position, the module feeds the speedo with a "faster speed" to fool it into thinking it's going over 7MPH....
#24
DG3 or HL ICM for B.F.
Well I can definitly tell a difference from 0-55 mph w/ the DG5 on and off. Dyno charts clearly show the 6-7 rwhp gain to be had around 25 mph and it continues to provide around 3 rwhp up to about 55 mph. This is true for the DG5 or HL ICM.
The DG5 only helped w/ about 1 rwhp above 55 mph... but DG5 clearly states that this Module is mainly for low end and mid range. They told me it wouldn't hurt top end, but really wouldn't help it either. A 1 rwhp gain is a gain none the less so I'm pleased.
The DG5 only helped w/ about 1 rwhp above 55 mph... but DG5 clearly states that this Module is mainly for low end and mid range. They told me it wouldn't hurt top end, but really wouldn't help it either. A 1 rwhp gain is a gain none the less so I'm pleased.
#25
DG3 or HL ICM for B.F.
Problem is you can't really Dyno a CVT tranny. You need to have a fixed 1:1 final drive ratio to get a *REAL* dyno graph. With the CVT, the final drive changes continuously.
It's impossible to get more HP above the 7 MPH mark. The CDI only has a binary normal/retard mode at the 7 MPH mark. If you're above 7MPH, it uses normal timing, if you're below, it retards it. I've hooked an oscilloscope to the crank trigger and spark plugs, and you can't get more HP than Mitsubishi designed into it. All you can do is remove the safety low speed retard.
With a module on, you have a way harder launch, and you have more power at the bottom, and they conveys itself to feeling like more power throughout the band, but it just isn't there.
It's impossible to get more HP above the 7 MPH mark. The CDI only has a binary normal/retard mode at the 7 MPH mark. If you're above 7MPH, it uses normal timing, if you're below, it retards it. I've hooked an oscilloscope to the crank trigger and spark plugs, and you can't get more HP than Mitsubishi designed into it. All you can do is remove the safety low speed retard.
With a module on, you have a way harder launch, and you have more power at the bottom, and they conveys itself to feeling like more power throughout the band, but it just isn't there.
#26
DG3 or HL ICM for B.F.
Wires,
Has hit it dead on the head, a module will only produce what the intended cdi already has. That is why most manufacturers will tell everyone to install a degree key so the key will offset the short comings of the module. The module ( everyone's ) advances the to max timing of 28* just past idle till it hits 6500 rpm where the cdi retards timing down to 18* at a supposed 8500 rpm. There is nothing wrong with a module but when you add in the expense of installing a key then you may as well get a cdi as the cost will be less. All you have to do is unplug the old one and plug in the new one.
Has hit it dead on the head, a module will only produce what the intended cdi already has. That is why most manufacturers will tell everyone to install a degree key so the key will offset the short comings of the module. The module ( everyone's ) advances the to max timing of 28* just past idle till it hits 6500 rpm where the cdi retards timing down to 18* at a supposed 8500 rpm. There is nothing wrong with a module but when you add in the expense of installing a key then you may as well get a cdi as the cost will be less. All you have to do is unplug the old one and plug in the new one.
#27
DG3 or HL ICM for B.F.
Originally posted by: alltoys
Wires,
Has hit it dead on the head, a module will only produce what the intended cdi already has. That is why most manufacturers will tell everyone to install a degree key so the key will offset the short comings of the module. The module ( everyone's ) advances the to max timing of 28* just past idle till it hits 6500 rpm where the cdi retards timing down to 18* at a supposed 8500 rpm. There is nothing wrong with a module but when you add in the expense of installing a key then you may as well get a cdi as the cost will be less. All you have to do is unplug the old one and plug in the new one.
Wires,
Has hit it dead on the head, a module will only produce what the intended cdi already has. That is why most manufacturers will tell everyone to install a degree key so the key will offset the short comings of the module. The module ( everyone's ) advances the to max timing of 28* just past idle till it hits 6500 rpm where the cdi retards timing down to 18* at a supposed 8500 rpm. There is nothing wrong with a module but when you add in the expense of installing a key then you may as well get a cdi as the cost will be less. All you have to do is unplug the old one and plug in the new one.
#28
DG3 or HL ICM for B.F.
@bbertram
I have been to your sites and your movies are great [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img].
Keep up the good work.
But i have a question.
I have seen your brute in your movies but wich mods do you have on your brute force.
I've seen that you have maxxis 8-spoke wheels but wich cdi, clutch, jet kit, airfilter , exhaust do you have?
greetzzz
I have been to your sites and your movies are great [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img].
Keep up the good work.
But i have a question.
I have seen your brute in your movies but wich mods do you have on your brute force.
I've seen that you have maxxis 8-spoke wheels but wich cdi, clutch, jet kit, airfilter , exhaust do you have?
greetzzz
#29
DG3 or HL ICM for B.F.
Originally posted by: jawyatt
I just put a new HL ICM on my bf and it did nothing. I soldered it like it said to but still nothing. So i took it off and cant connect the pink wire back together. Does anyone know what the wire is for and if i really need it. Any suggestions on what i can do to make it work.
I just put a new HL ICM on my bf and it did nothing. I soldered it like it said to but still nothing. So i took it off and cant connect the pink wire back together. Does anyone know what the wire is for and if i really need it. Any suggestions on what i can do to make it work.
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