I just bought a new Brute force 650i, went riding last weekend and I noticed a little bit of bump steer, then noticed that the Brute has a good bit of toe-out. Does anyone know if this is set up by the dealer or is it set up by kawasaki? My experience has been that toe-out increases bump steer. How do you guy's have yours set up? This is an awesome machine and I think I'll be much happier with it than I was with the 650 cat. Thanks for your Input.

 

Better to turn out than in.

Most manuals show toe out for specs on quad alinements. From zero about a 1/4 inch on each wheel.
But check with Kawasaki and have the dealer check it out for you.


good luck...........handycap

 

i think you outta have it looked at. mine doesn't bump steer. i'll see what the manual says next time i look at it.

monty

 

i think my brute 750 was set at zero in or out. since then though i put on diamond g rods and ends and now mine is toed in just a hair. i think thats what ktm265 runs. he's the one who makes the rods that diamond g sells.

 

will setting toe to zero or even giving the 650i some toe in help it to steer easier and remove that shaking as i take long race track turns?

also, what is bump steer?

 

On my 05 750 and my 06 650. They were both sent from the factory with some toe-out. Along with that. The handle bars were crooked on both from the factory. I set my 05 750 to 0 toe-out and the 06 650 to 1/8 toe-out on each wheel. I don't race. But the way I ride, I can't tell any diff. My issue was with the crooked handle bars from the factory.

 

the 650i service manual doesn't give toe specs. just that each tie rod is supposed to be 15.48 inches from center to center. i set mine at 1/8" toe in when i put tie rods in it, and i have no problem. it handles better than new.

try a little toe in and try that. i couldn't find a way to measure the tie rods that closely, but it is easy to set toe in.

monty

 

Almost all Kawi's V-twin quad's front wheel toe-in spec is ZERO +/- 10 mm.
Set it to toe out (+ ), if you want easier/looer steering feeling for easy slow riding on soft terrain.
Set it to toe in (-), if you want stiffer/quicker steering feeling for fast trail riding on hard packed terrain.

 

where did you find that kawi spec?

monty

 

Toe has nothing to do with bump steer. Bump steer is caused by having a poor relationship between the pivot point of the tie rod and the A arm, strut or whatever. A good suspention system will have the pivot points in line.
"Slight" toe out will make a "slightly" more stable ride but will cause "slightly" more heavy steering. Toe in will cause the opposite.