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Old 02-09-2007, 08:55 PM
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I told you all that there would be some arguing going on here. But I will add to it. They can say all they want about this cdi being better than this one. I own a 05 750i and a 06 650i and the 06 650i is as fast as the 05 750i and handles better. You can put any after market add on on any of them to make them faster than your buddy's. I don't care what any body say's. Stock for stock there isn't a HILL OF BEENS diff. between the two. Most of the argument is coming from people who have 750's. I would probably feel bad to if I would have spent more money and gained nothing. I personally could care less what people own or ride or going to buy. Alls I can tell you is get the 650, save your self some good hard earned cash and be right there. Besides all that. I enjoy being the under dog. One other thing that just hit me. I cant remember any body that has a 650i coming on here telling every one that there 650i can't hold a wick to there buddy's 750i. So it must be true. The 650i does rock.
 
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thanks for the input ...yall have given me alot to think about
 
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Old 02-10-2007, 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by: Nessa
thank you for the input so what is the performance differnce between the 750 and the 650?
THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT

I went from a 650sra to the 750i. Both with the MooseModule.
While the 650 had plenty of snap & speed (& I could really throw it around no problem)...

The 750 has more TORQUE. GRUNT. It is a little top heavy MONSTER that drinks almost twice the fuel. This is the model to go with for large diameter tires / mudding requirements. Enuff said.

 
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Old 02-10-2007, 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by: SUPERBASH
Originally posted by: Nessa
thank you for the input so what is the performance differnce between the 750 and the 650?
THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT

I went from a 650sra to the 750i. Both with the MooseModule.
While the 650 had plenty of snap & speed (& I could really throw it around no problem)...

The 750 has more TORQUE. GRUNT. It is a little top heavy MONSTER that drinks almost twice the fuel. This is the model to go with for large diameter tires / mudding requirements. Enuff said.


Exactly, there isn't an argument there about the Torque difference between the two.

Sure, out of the box stock the 650 is close to the 750 in speed but put those cubes to work and you'll see a difference. Pulling power, handling bigger tires..etc the 750 is a stronger motor no question.

Some guys forget that it's still just a utility quad... if you want something with speed buy a sport quad or the new 800 Renegade. The majority of people who own the 750 are not kicking themselves saying "damn, I should of bought the 650" lol
 
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Old 02-10-2007, 03:01 PM
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Brute Force is an amazing machine no doubt about it...


but if i was you i'd look into the bombardier outlander 650 or 800....look into pricing if you can find a outlander for the same price or close then i'd get it instead....outlander is overall better then the bruteforce and top speed on a outlander 800 is like 82 mph...that would smoke any other utility and probably most stock sport quads LMFAO
 
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Old 02-10-2007, 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by: alltoos
I told you all that there would be some arguing going on here. But I will add to it. They can say all they want about this cdi being better than this one. I own a 05 750i and a 06 650i and the 06 650i is as fast as the 05 750i and handles better. You can put any after market add on on any of them to make them faster than your buddy's. I don't care what any body say's. Stock for stock there isn't a HILL OF BEENS diff. between the two..
what I was saying is for YOU to swap YOUR CDI's out from your 650 to your 750 and see what happens. after that your 650 wont amount to a hill of burnt beans. I'm not saying the 650 is a bad machine, its an awesome bike, but the reason they are neck and neck stock is because of the timing retard on the 750 CDI if you put your 650 CDI in your 750 (which has no retard) the 750 will be a completely different beast
 
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Originally posted by: bruteforcebob
Originally posted by: alltoos
I told you all that there would be some arguing going on here. But I will add to it. They can say all they want about this cdi being better than this one. I own a 05 750i and a 06 650i and the 06 650i is as fast as the 05 750i and handles better. You can put any after market add on on any of them to make them faster than your buddy's. I don't care what any body say's. Stock for stock there isn't a HILL OF BEENS diff. between the two..
what I was saying is for YOU to swap YOUR CDI's out from your 650 to your 750 and see what happens. after that your 650 wont amount to a hill of burnt beans. I'm not saying the 650 is a bad machine, its an awesome bike, but the reason they are neck and neck stock is because of the timing retard on the 750 CDI if you put your 650 CDI in your 750 (which has no retard) the 750 will be a completely different beast
..darn bfb now you went and burnt the beans lol but but you are so so right
 
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Old 02-13-2007, 01:44 PM
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If the bf650i is as fast as the bf750i, then why can't the bf650i beat the outy 650 when the bf750i beats the outy650???? Hmmmmmm. Yes the bf650i is fast and almost as fast as the bf750i, but it is not faster.

Also, I believe the outy800 tops out at around 75mph, NOT 82.....LOL. If the price is with in $200 of the outy800 and the bf750, then I would get the outy800. HOWEVER, I have never seen the outy800 that close in price. Ususally it is about $1000 more which is a lot of money.
 
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Old 02-13-2007, 07:47 PM
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there is three horsepower difference between the 650i and 750. you will not be able to tell the difference by riding the two. we could play the "what if one has mods" game all day, but in the end, it boils down to how much money you wanna throw at your atv. a strong 650i can and will stomp a 750 that isn't tuned perfectly. i've read of the 650i beating the 650 bombs (and the other way around, too.) it is way too late to say that the 650i can't run with the 750s. that was the topic a year ago.

THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR COMPRESSION (750, 8.8-1, 650i 9.9-1)

but in the end, it is what the dealer is gonna give you a deal on. get what YOU like.

monty
 
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by: montyh
there is three horsepower difference between the 650i and 750. you will not be able to tell the difference by riding the two. we could play the "what if one has mods" game all day, but in the end, it boils down to how much money you wanna throw at your atv. a strong 650i can and will stomp a 750 that isn't tuned perfectly. i've read of the 650i beating the 650 bombs (and the other way around, too.) it is way too late to say that the 650i can't run with the 750s. that was the topic a year ago.

THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR COMPRESSION (750, 8.8-1, 650i 9.9-1)

but in the end, it is what the dealer is gonna give you a deal on. get what YOU like.

monty

You're missing the point dude. The original question was pros and cons of the 750. Then a few of you guys with the 650s jump in saying how the 750 and 650 are the same in power, cheaper...etc. The bottom line is the bigger displacement=more torque. Put a 350lb person on the 650 towing a 500lb trailer and do the same on the 750 and you'll know the difference between the two.

Then you throw out "a strong 650i" will stomp a "750 that isn't tuned perfectly" ROFL - Whats that all about? So you're saying a 650i that is running perfect will beat up on a guy that's quad isn't running right. LOL

These are utility quads. They are not race quads. If you are looking to race a 4x4 quad either bruteforce quad isn't the quad for doing that. If you plan on using your utility for doing more than just trail riding such as pulling, pushing, towing...actual work.. the 750 would be my choice. It has more torque than the 650 and it doesn't have to work as hard to make the power.

And we CAN play the "what if on has mods game" -I rather mod out a quad with a bigger displacement than one with a small displacement. There is a reason aftermarket companies make "Big Bore" kits. Why? Oh yeah... to increase displacement - the "replacement for compression".

I said it before and I'll say it again. Nobody is going to buy the 750 and say "damn, I should of bought the 650"




 


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