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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 06:53 PM
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Well i went out and bought some handgrip heaters.The type that are a wire grid on a sticky film. Soon found out the handgrip is glued on with black silicone, this stuff bonded like natural rubber. Tried the phillips screwdriver between handlebar and grip and managed to free it up some . Ended up rolling back inner grip and skinning it away from bar.most of silicone is up at this end.
There is no doubt that these grips would never pull of in the heat of a race or big mud bog. Big frost last night and the mountains are white so these will come in handy real soon.
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 07:28 PM
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Roscoe69: I put a set of heated grips on my P650, actually had to cut off the existing grips with an exacto knife! Also put on a thumb warmer, both of these are indispencible for cold weather riding.........MJSTX
 
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 07:50 PM
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I have in the past installed them on sleds, handwarmers and thumb warmers and they actually worked. the thumbwarmer is the one i had trouble getting to stick ,tried epoxy and a couple types of silicone. Some epoxy's work for a while, some silicones are good. What did you use and did it stay .
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 08:02 PM
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Pardon my intrusion into this topic, because I know nothing about handwarmers. However, you mentioned fastenening a device using epoxy (brittle) or silicone (very weak).

I have been going to great lengths to tell people about Goop, which is a far superior adhesive in many cases to epoxy or silicone (no, I don't make it, sell it or own stock in it). It takes skill to use it right without it running off before drying. But for fender cracks, and attaching stuff that you don't want falling off, Goop rules. Always try to use a lot, unlike crazy glue.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 11:19 PM
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Yes i knew of goop, used to sell it when i worked at a sporting goods store . worked real good on rubber but as you say real thin liquid. The problem with thumbwarmers are they are rubber and you are trying to get them to stick to a hard plastic throttle that is going through cold hot cycles.
Your right about epoxy ,too hard, some silicone's are weaker then others but at least they are thick( easer to apply) and silicone will go through the hot cold cycles well.
Last winter my sled thumbwarmer fell off during cold weather ( epoxy)and it was to d--n cold to get anything to work so i electrical taped it back on. Will have to devise a plan to attach it back on with goop. Thanks for the reminder.
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Old Aug 18, 2002 | 12:08 AM
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Hey guys I installed hand and thumb warmers last fall. They definetly make plowing nicer.

My thumbwarmer kit had a peel off stiker on the back of the heating element. That wouldn't hold for long though. The perfect solution is to use the correct size of shrink tubing.

It's black, not slick and shrinks to a perfectly secure and solid fit. It looks stock when you are done. If I remeber correctly it was 1 1/2" or 1 1/4".

Something else I spent alot of time on this accessory was the switches. I didn't want two big metal toggle switches sticking out somewhere. Seemed like a possible accident waiting to happen.

Anyways I was able to find a three position black rocker switch rated for the correct load (high, off, low). I also wired the hand warmers and thumb warmer on the same switch. I put the switch right behind the gear shift, and again it looks factory.

Let me know if you want photos.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2002 | 12:11 AM
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I put the softgrip Hotgrips on my 650 and installed them with the epoxy that Hotgrips sells. It works awesome. As for the thumbwarmer, buy a large diameter piece of shrinktube and put it on right over the top of the thumbwarmer and the throttle lever. You gotta wear a hole right through the shrinktube before it even attempts to come off. A lot of my buddies have used this method and it works really well.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2002 | 05:22 AM
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hey dirtydawg
can i get pics? thanks

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Old Aug 18, 2002 | 05:50 AM
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I've been using Loctite PRISM 480 lately on everthing from the truck, riding mower, kids toys and my quad, I have yet to see it fail. It's perfect for bonding non-metallic parts to metallic parts, I have used it on plastic to plastic and stills holds good without fail.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2002 | 11:01 AM
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Lots of creative replys to this problem.
Mastrblastr and Dirty dawg probably have "the final solution" shrink tube probably lasts the longest and can be applied summer or winter.
Hey guys what prceedure do you use for the shrinking ?
I knew the warmers get so hot that they would set a mitt on fire, cant you see a guy going down the trail with his mitts on fire, talk about a conversation piece.
Trailhog im not familiar with loctite PRISM 480 , what is it similer too?
Thanks Raymond
 
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