At wits end..PLEASE help!!!!!!
#31
I don't know but it seems to me that the most of the time the engines on these chinese atv's are pretty good. Its all the other stuff that gives grief!
As for valves they "should" be checked when new. I'm sure if you a buy a new honda when they do a pdi they check them. They also want you to get them checked again after so many hrs. for warranty etc.
I know a Chinese atv dealer that says when the last of his goes he's done with them! He's getting a Korean brand Hosung I think its called, higher end stuff but priced a bit below the big 4. He is trying to run an actual dealership you know with a mechanic and parts etc. etc. Trouble he says is every Tom Dick and Harry is selling these chinese atv's out of the back of thier Cargo van for next to nothing. The market is flooded with cheap "old stock" chinese atv's. He says who ever did the spec's on these things must have been a used car salesmen or something!
Cause they cut way too many corners on simple things like bolt hardware for one thing. The stuff he sells he does a real pdi and more on them to fix little things that will cause warranty problems. After he goes through them he says they are not too bad.
Now he says he's getting people bringing their chinese atv's in for service as the fly by night characters that sold them the atv's are long gone. If you buy one of these bargin ones off of ebay or something you should be prepared to do the service and parts finding yourself!
As for valves they "should" be checked when new. I'm sure if you a buy a new honda when they do a pdi they check them. They also want you to get them checked again after so many hrs. for warranty etc.
I know a Chinese atv dealer that says when the last of his goes he's done with them! He's getting a Korean brand Hosung I think its called, higher end stuff but priced a bit below the big 4. He is trying to run an actual dealership you know with a mechanic and parts etc. etc. Trouble he says is every Tom Dick and Harry is selling these chinese atv's out of the back of thier Cargo van for next to nothing. The market is flooded with cheap "old stock" chinese atv's. He says who ever did the spec's on these things must have been a used car salesmen or something!
Cause they cut way too many corners on simple things like bolt hardware for one thing. The stuff he sells he does a real pdi and more on them to fix little things that will cause warranty problems. After he goes through them he says they are not too bad.
Now he says he's getting people bringing their chinese atv's in for service as the fly by night characters that sold them the atv's are long gone. If you buy one of these bargin ones off of ebay or something you should be prepared to do the service and parts finding yourself!
#32
Seems to me if there are so many chinese quads sold by fly-by-nighters and they all need all that fixin up, it would be a dream come true for this guy. Bike shops make a ton more money turning a wrench or selling parts than they do on selling the bikes.
Seems like a potentially good scenario/market for an enterprising young man as well. If the chinese motors are pretty good, as mentioned, then why not do like all the other chinese import companies are doing and slap your own brand name on them...but makes some changes first. Find out what is not so good on all the "other" stuff on the bike and lay out a fix plan with all the parts that need fixing/upgrading (nuts/bolts, shocks, maybe some minor welding in of extra support pieces, etc). Do that to your bikes and then sell them at a higher price to make your money there. Offer a "kit" to upgrade the chinese bikes and offer service to install those kits as well.
Might take a little time to get things sorted, but once up and running, seems like this would work out nicely. We all know most Americans prefer to buy cheap than to buy quality, but if you can offer a happy medium you'd do well. Options are always good.
Above all else, offer the best customer service you can. A customer that has had a problem with their bike, but walks away feeling they were taken good care of is the best advertisement mechanism you can get. You might occasionally have to lose some money to make more money. Instead of telling that customer "tough noogies, that $50 part isn't covered under warranty", give them the part and eat the $50 because the next bike or accessory they need/want they're gonna buy it from you instead the next dealer down the road. I think the big, high falut'in corporate ******* call that "building a customer relationship", or somesuch along that line. Yeah, they got some goofy names for their business ideas and some weird business philosphies sometimes, but those boys know how to run big business, so we can at least learn something from them.
I always liked what my daddy once told me (when I started telling him I wanted my own business)...he said " Remember this if you remember nothing...it is the customer that is doing YOU the favor by patronizing your establishment, not you doing THEM the favor by having it".
Seems like a potentially good scenario/market for an enterprising young man as well. If the chinese motors are pretty good, as mentioned, then why not do like all the other chinese import companies are doing and slap your own brand name on them...but makes some changes first. Find out what is not so good on all the "other" stuff on the bike and lay out a fix plan with all the parts that need fixing/upgrading (nuts/bolts, shocks, maybe some minor welding in of extra support pieces, etc). Do that to your bikes and then sell them at a higher price to make your money there. Offer a "kit" to upgrade the chinese bikes and offer service to install those kits as well.
Might take a little time to get things sorted, but once up and running, seems like this would work out nicely. We all know most Americans prefer to buy cheap than to buy quality, but if you can offer a happy medium you'd do well. Options are always good.
Above all else, offer the best customer service you can. A customer that has had a problem with their bike, but walks away feeling they were taken good care of is the best advertisement mechanism you can get. You might occasionally have to lose some money to make more money. Instead of telling that customer "tough noogies, that $50 part isn't covered under warranty", give them the part and eat the $50 because the next bike or accessory they need/want they're gonna buy it from you instead the next dealer down the road. I think the big, high falut'in corporate ******* call that "building a customer relationship", or somesuch along that line. Yeah, they got some goofy names for their business ideas and some weird business philosphies sometimes, but those boys know how to run big business, so we can at least learn something from them.
I always liked what my daddy once told me (when I started telling him I wanted my own business)...he said " Remember this if you remember nothing...it is the customer that is doing YOU the favor by patronizing your establishment, not you doing THEM the favor by having it".
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