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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DeeDawg
Sounds to me like someone can't afford that new toy they are drooling over...
why would i want a new toy when i just got my Suzuki?

sounds like someone is mad i don't join the circle jerk around here
 
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 05:05 PM
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Honestly, I've never had any quad that left me stranded out in the woods. Polaris had 3600+ miles on it when I traded it in. Had an issue where I hit a rock off a drop that I wasn't going fast or slow enough. Right under the rear axle/differential. Just about knocked the teeth out of my head. Had to get it fixed. My bad. Outlander has 1600 miles on it without anything going wrong.

The whole point is different people have different needs. A guy out in the desert isn't going to buy Mudlite XTR's for his quad and a guy from New England has no need for sand paddles. We need 4wd that can get you through mud, snow, ice, rocky hill climbs where you can't go fast without destroying your machine, deep waterholes, and deep mudholes. It's not uncommon to get up to your front rack or deeper here. Not sure what Suzuki you have but a King Quad does pretty good here with the front locker. Been in a few mudholes where having full 4wd got me that extra few feet needed to get out.

Big bores are not for everyone. You do have to be able to influence the quad to ride it properly. I can power-slide the heaviest machines out there. Not everyone can. If you can't use your body weight it's good to have a throttle that will break the rear tires free to get through a turn. Again, not for everyone. If your machine can't break them free you better take your time in corners.

One caution I always give to people who buy a Can-Am 800 or 1000 is to keep off the throttle going into a corner. It can pick up the front end enough that you have no steerage. That's one reason I find the 650 to be perfect for me (not everyone). Enough power to break the rear free in a corner, but doesn't effect the steering as much as the 800 or 1000.

Again, to each his own. What works for me isn't going to necessarily work for others. What works for you also may not be the best quad for others.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy578
why would i want a new toy when i just got my Suzuki?

sounds like someone is mad i don't join the circle jerk around here
Just a word to the wise here. You started by calling large riders "Land whales" and saying that people who buy the machines are just getting them for an "ego boost". That is a personal attack on a person of larger size and an attack on people who have stated intelligent reasons why they have/like/want/need the bigger machines. There is a great deal of difference with someone disagreeing with your points and saying they don't agree with your points or the childish name-calling.

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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MooseHenden
Honestly, I've never had any quad that left me stranded out in the woods. Polaris had 3600+ miles on it when I traded it in. Had an issue where I hit a rock off a drop that I wasn't going fast or slow enough. Right under the rear axle/differential. Just about knocked the teeth out of my head. Had to get it fixed. My bad. Outlander has 1600 miles on it without anything going wrong.

The whole point is different people have different needs. A guy out in the desert isn't going to buy Mudlite XTR's for his quad and a guy from New England has no need for sand paddles. We need 4wd that can get you through mud, snow, ice, rocky hill climbs where you can't go fast without destroying your machine, deep waterholes, and deep mudholes. It's not uncommon to get up to your front rack or deeper here. Not sure what Suzuki you have but a King Quad does pretty good here with the front locker. Been in a few mudholes where having full 4wd got me that extra few feet needed to get out.

Big bores are not for everyone. You do have to be able to influence the quad to ride it properly. I can power-slide the heaviest machines out there. Not everyone can. If you can't use your body weight it's good to have a throttle that will break the rear tires free to get through a turn. Again, not for everyone. If your machine can't break them free you better take your time in corners.
Polaris seems solid but some have had a lot of fan issues and general heat issues but personally i just don't like the racks

sadly i don't have enough weight to really throw around the Suzuki(it is a KQ) and that's my biggest issue with it as i got used to being able to really throw around the light Honda but the Suzuki is far more comfortable and my back has really thanked me for it
 
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy578
Polaris seems solid but some have had a lot of fan issues and general heat issues but personally i just don't like the racks

sadly i don't have enough weight to really throw around the Suzuki(it is a KQ) and that's my biggest issue with it as i got used to being able to really throw around the light Honda but the Suzuki is far more comfortable and my back has really thanked me for it
IRS goes a long way towards being able to ride all day with a bad back. Have the same issue myself.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MooseHenden
IRS goes a long way towards being able to ride all day with a bad back. Have the same issue myself.
i think that and the seat being much softer really helped, the power steering may also help but honestly it feels kinda stiff to me but that might be just because i've got used to it, any idea if there's a way to mod it at all?

sadly back problems have been a big issue for me the last few years. fell during the winter and ended up with 2 slipped discs and need surgery but the wait list here is so long they won't add people to it unless it's an emergency which basically means you have to not be walking
 
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy578
stopped reading right there, thanks for proving my point



actually i have but i spend more time towing them after they break stuff anyway oh and as for those huge tires all they do is dig giant ruts and ruin the trails for everyone else so again no point and useless, if you can't get through the mud either go around it or use the dam winch you spent hundreds on
andy- maybe you should consider reading more then, as you seem quite ignorant regarding the atv sport.

your point is silly. if having just enough power to get through a trail is good for you- and nothing else matters, then you've found a good mate with your antiquated Honda- or maybe you should ride a lawn tractor, since that will also carry a person around puddles and on trails... But for the rest of us who prefer to have a machine that'll lift the front wheels over a downed tree or over a rock at the blip of the throttle, effortlessly carry 2 full grown adults up a steep long rocky mountain, through deep water & mud and have instant "power-sliding" zip to experience an exhilarating atv ride- your little engine & small framed atv won't even begin to touch it.

using your same premise with other aspects- I assume you drive a Motel T automobile since- it'll get you from a to z just fine?

you're so full of BS I can see it oozing out the top of my computer screen.
HP, CC's, big tires, power steering locking front diffs... all just features that allow the rider to tackle bigger, deeper, more difficult obstacles- and do it in comfort. Lets see who comes out felling better at the end of the day after a 180 mile ride through the new-England terrain.... we'll see who's towing who.

do yourself a favor and stick to the grassy fields- no one is interested in hearing how your "mighty 350 Honda" can outperform any big bore atv- because it simply can't.

and- you sound like an absolute fool saying
"if you can't get through the mud either go around it or use the dam winch you
spent hundreds on"
- I can't even comment on all the reasons why that comment is asinine and just plain dumb.

really- just so clueless.


here- educate yourself why we "big ego" riders require HP.


 
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by beergut
andy- maybe you should consider reading more then, as you seem quite ignorant regarding the atv sport.

your point is silly. if having just enough power to get through a trail is good for you- and nothing else matters, then you've found a good mate with your antiquated Honda- or maybe you should ride a lawn tractor, since that will also carry a person around puddles and on trails... But for the rest of us who prefer to have a machine that'll lift the front wheels over a downed tree or over a rock at the blip of the throttle, effortlessly carry 2 full grown adults up a steep long rocky mountain, through deep water & mud and have instant "power-sliding" zip to experience an exhilarating atv ride- your little engine & small framed atv won't even begin to touch it.
actually that little Honda will do all of those things

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Lets see who comes out felling better at the end of the day after a 180 mile ride through the new-England terrain.... we'll see who's towing who
deal you buy the ticket and ship the Honda and i'll bring the tow strap for when that Can-Am tranny bites the dust
 
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DeeDawg
Sounds to me like someone can't afford that new toy they are drooling over...

 
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 07:54 PM
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never heard of a can-am transmission failing.
but both my Honda Rincon transmissions failed with less then 1000 miles on each.
and my Honda 300fw tranny would slip at the first hint of throttle in a mud hole.

again- you're full of, ummmm "poo-poo"
 
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