Clearly you did not read the link on my original post, did you.....

http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/20...ad_to_serfdom/

 

And yes, this is America and we can still call the President a lunatic if he is one.....at least for a little while longer.

Gun control is next on the agenda! You can't control a population if they are armed, so private gun ownership will have to go.

 

 

No, I didn't. I'll read it tonight though. Still doesn't change the fact that he's called a fascist and and a socialist/communist at the same time. How is that possible? ....regardless of what Fox News says.

 

It'll be OK recon......Nobody is going to take our guns away....not mine anyway.

Yes, thankfully we can call him anything we want. Couldn't agree with you more.

 

All three of these ism's, are based on government control of the means of production. The government is buying up the banks and financial industries an leveraging the auto industry....but what they really really ultimately want is control of ENERGY production! Whoever controls that, has the nation by the *****!

I think he thinks of himself as a socialist (as do may who voted him into office), yet he is headed down the slippery slope toward fascism. He sounds more like Moussolini than Marx.....that's the irony of the whole thing, isn't it!!!

Not to mention that he is aligned with the radical environmentalists, who can't stand the fact that you ride! My God, your quad belches CO2 greenhouse gases...and that is probably as unacceptable as your gun!!! You ready for cap-and-trade? How about huge taxes on your quad???? Your breath emits CO2 as well.....

 

Here you know what, He screws up let the republicans in in 2 years,and elect someone else after that. He does good, figures out the economy and know's what were going to do in the middle east keep him. Simple as that.

 

I don't think we have time for someone who will mess up. I agree and hope/pray that he succeeds, but honestly, much of what he's doing is clearly flawed from the start.

Recon- I don't think he is leading us toward a autocratic/socialist/fascist/communist society, I think he blends capitalist ideas with socialist ideas (which APPEAR solid until one views past societies and deeply into what carries socialist systems) which is simply ineffective.

Scrambler- I share your idea of giving him a chance, and being optimistic; but I as a 16 year old can see flaws when presented the simple, unbiased information.

I am not biased. I'm an average, middle class, publicly schooled, 16 year old. My mother generally is leftist, and my father quite conservative. I consider both sides of the picture, and decide for myself. I make these decisions mostly by simply looking at past nations and whether or not they succeeded or failed.

In the end, Obama needs to take quite a few steps to the right, as does Congress. Pulling our upper and middle to upper tiers of society down isn't going to work. Distribution of the wealth is DIRECTLY AGAINST THE F'N AMERICAN DREAM. If I work my whole life to building a company, and I make $300,000 a year (lol what a dream right?), I don't expect some scrub claiming he needs help who's mooching welfare claiming mental insecurity to be "stealing" from me. Our society is based on the ideas that people are free. If you work hard and succeed, well done, you reap the benefits. If you don't, and fail, you need to pull yourself up, not cry for help.

If you made it this far, thanks for reading.

- John, NY

 

Well written John.

 

Time, resources and technology change; not a good way to make historical decisions.

Good to give a new President a least a chance. It's un-American not to.

Direct contradictions.

No, this is the way all countries operate. Who do you think pays to keep this ship afloat? The more you make the more you pay.....It's ALWAYS been that way, and ALWAYS will be.....Once you start paying taxes and you're in a bracket where you enjoy generous deductions and most of your major purchases are taken care of, you'll understand.

I just finished my federal taxes today and I'm paying less (not much less, but less) this year than last. Obama isn't bringing me "down" and I make well into the six figure bracket. Verified today 4/4/09.

Do you know what % of the budget is scheduled for "welfare" as you say? -Welfare and food stamps combined are less than two and a half percent of the federal budget. Would you rather have basic social programs for 2.5% or put them in jail and pay 8% with vicious cycles of family violence and crime....thousands more homeless. Be hopeful and grateful that someday you will be a productive member of society in America. Maybe your future business will make some money off those on the bottom tier and not have to spend money defending itself from them.

Yes, I have a very different view of how a reasonable society operates.

Sounds like you might be listening to a bit too much Sam Wurzelbacher, AKA "Joe the Plumber". He's a hack.