Absolutely!!! That is the biggest problem OHVer's of all type's have.

Eros has a great idea, dont you think??

 

Heywood,

if you would read my signature, you would see what I'm doing about it. I am an ATV Safety Instructor for the state of MN and I also started a club in my area, in which I'm president. We are also in contact with the local Sheriff's Dept (my VP is a cop) to be first reposnders in the event that someone in the area gets lost, wounded, or to assist in what other emergencies may arise. You have valid points, but your the tone in your post comes off as being a little too arrogant. It does get frustrating when so many want the privilege to ride but sit back and let everyone else do the work. But hey, someone has to do it. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

 

JTY2K, your a donkey
I am involved, as a member or BRC, ASA, Utah ATV, ect. And we are always having to explain the idiots like you.
Thanks for taking some of or valuable time we like to spend cleaning up trails, educating children, and raising money for charity.
We all appreciate your stupidity. Grow up, or I am going to tell your daddy to sell your quad......

 

hes not puting n e one else at risk, hes puting himself at risk. think about it, if he hits a car (say a midsize) whats going to happen? the quad will hit the car and maybe dent to bumper or something, and he'll go flying over the car and get run over. who gets hurt here? JTY2K, that who.

 

trying to convince him to change his ways isnt going to help the volatile situation. arguing with an idiot is pointless. they'll just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. what you have to do is diffuse the situation. that means putting on a pretty face for the public by becoming involved in the same issues that face everyone. let them see you as a group doing something positive for your neighborhoods. hiding from public scrutiny while you blast the bad guys on forums like this (that the public never sees) makes you look guilty.

as for the groups out there that keep track of all the bad stuff ATV'ers do. counteract that by making sure you get attention for the good stuff you do. of course, that assumes that you'reout doing some good stuff. get your buddys together and go clean up the local park. make sure your ATV's are in the back of your trucks or trailers so everyone knows who is doing the deed. and take pictures. most everyone has a digital camera these days. send them to the local paper with a list of the names of the guys involved and a brief outline of what you did. it'll make the papers the same as the nitwit running from the cops.

the 'smartness' (which isnt really a word) of the many isnt displayed. what you have to do is give them plenty of evidence that the stupid ones are isolated incidences, and exceptions to the rule. on the other hand, trying to stay in the background, away from the public eye makes you seem guilty by association. to them, youre as guilty as the guys riding through their yards at night.

if the fact that there are laws against certain behaviors doesnt stop the stupid ones, do you think berating them on this forum is going to help? its your fight to win or lose. if youre going to win, the first thing you have to do is get involved. sitting back and hoping that the idiots straighten up and that the groups aimed at outlawing this sport is simply unacceptable.

 

OK, he said the raod was wet and he could slide better. Sliding doesn't mean controlling. The officer that is chasing him in his car will have less control on wet pavement. If he was on a public street, then it's safe to assume the public may be using it. Add speed. Now let's put your son or daughter on the side of the road, just minding their own business. Tell me then, he has put no one but himself at risk. If he only hits another car, his insurance will not cover the damages (operating ATV illegally). Who then is at risk of having to pay to fix a car they didn't wreck?

 

well i have run from the cops also, you dont think of that stuff at the time the adrenaline hits u and it feels awsome as soon as u get away.... it may not be smart but its sure fun at the time.. i would rather run than get a ticket for sure

 

You guys ever think that if a officer sees you running from them they might think you jacked a quad from sombody and may want to know why you are running? If sombody ripped off your quad and was raising he!! out in the streets would'nt you want the cops to catch them. Besides there is a law called -reckless endangerment- if you run from the police and end up in a chase and get busted you may be charged for endangering the officer.

I'm not sure about all the laws in everybodys states and towns all the cops I know don't care just as long as your not tearing up the public streets. My sugggestion is next time you see a cop go over and get some info from them, ask if you can ride at a moderate speed to and from the gas station or where ever.

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Reminds me of the story I read about in our newspaper sometime ago.

In Michigan,it illegal for anyone under the age of 16 to operate any type of ORV without an ORV safety class certificate and visual supervision of an adult that is 18yrs or older.

This 15yr old stops for fuel one day on his ATV.Upon leaving the filling station,he gets the red lights by a State Police cruiser not to far away.The kid runs and hauls ***.As he is running away,he headed towards Houghton Lake and rides on the frozen ice.Unknown to the kid,a little after as he arrives on the ice,there are 5 other POLICE on 4x4 ATVs with lights/sirens,ready to chase the dummy.So the kid still decides to run away from the cops.While being chased,the kid and his quad hit a very thin part of the ice on this lake and begins to fall thru.When the Police arrive to him,they decided it to be too risky to try and rescue the kid thru this hole.By the time the rescue folks arrived and found the body,it was too late,the kid had deceased from the elements.

To make matters even worse,the parents of the deceased youth were later charged by the Prosocuiting Attorney for not following Michigan laws regaurding youthful operation of an ORV and may soon be facing PRISON time.

Go ahead and RUN,this just might be YOU next time!

 

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