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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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I don' believe the parents should be punished, Im sure they are being ptu thru enough misery right now by the loss of there son. While I do beleive parents of these days need to be more responcible for there children, you can't expect them to be able to keep tabs on there children 24/7.

Before my father passed he was a police officer. I used to ask him if he was in any high speed chases. He alway said jokingly it would be fun, but to much is in stake. He would say that if he would keep pursuing the chase if the criminal would not pull over, he wasn't going to pull over until he was forced or injured. Not only would he be endangering the criminal, but himself and innocent people walking or driving down the street in a potential accident. Like bigblack said, usually all the evidence they need to know who it is only takes a little bit. Plus if a kid is riding a quad to a gas staion, it probably is a smaller town and not some new york city streets, so more than likely it is one of those everbody know everybody type deals.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by: sweetquads
Why do you think they did that? Out of the goodness of their hearts to save criminals lives? lol no it was because of lawsuits. There is some consideration of inoceant bystanders getting hurt aswell, which im sure plays a big part in it.
Why should the officer even worry about bystanders, for from all the logic on here the whole responsibility of chase is on the suspect because the officers were merely doing their J.O.B. as someone put it?

With the logic on here the lawsuit should be on the suspect not the officers because they should be allowed to give chase regardless of the cost.

None of you have express what your response would be if that were your 14yr old in the ground. From your post it would be something like, "Yes little Billy got what he deserved and these wonderful cops are to praise from getting him off the streets for the jerk had it coming."

I have a child and I do not see were the force equaled the crime.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by: motox26
I don' believe the parents should be punished, Im sure they are being ptu thru enough misery right now by the loss of there son. While I do beleive parents of these days need to be more responcible for there children, you can't expect them to be able to keep tabs on there children 24/7.

Before my father passed he was a police officer. I used to ask him if he was in any high speed chases. He alway said jokingly it would be fun, but to much is in stake. He would say that if he would keep pursuing the chase if the criminal would not pull over, he wasn't going to pull over until he was forced or injured. Not only would he be endangering the criminal, but himself and innocent people walking or driving down the street in a potential accident. Like bigblack said, usually all the evidence they need to know who it is only takes a little bit. Plus if a kid is riding a quad to a gas staion, it probably is a smaller town and not some new york city streets, so more than likely it is one of those everbody know everybody type deals.
Thank You motox for yet another REAL life example of where Police officers see a need to abandon the chase when the danger exceeds the crime.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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Ya know what pisses me off about that story, is the fact that no-one even tried to help save the kid. Ya know the kid didn't just die suddenly.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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as far as pointing the finger at someone, there really isn't no one to blame in my opinion. It is a trajedy that happed, you can look at it from all angles,

-the cop shouldn't of pushed the envelope
-the parents should have kept tabs on him
-the kid should of just excepted his punishment

In the end it really doesn't matter, but the only good that comes from accidents and tragedy's such as this, is that maybe we can learn from it.

One thing I don't understand is, why do kids think it is cool to get on here and brag about it. So what you got away from a cop. I have to I have been guilty of running into the woods on a quad when I was younger and being places I shouldn't of been, but it is not something I am proud of either.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by: MrDumass
Ya know what pisses me off about that story, is the fact that no-one even tried to help save the kid. Ya know the kid didn't just die suddenly.
I can honestly say that I could not sit and watch an innocent person die without doing anything. There is no way I could wake up everymoring knowing that I let a person die when I could have prevented it.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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If we are going to endanger lives, then the risk of endangering the suspect, officer and bystanders should outweigh the risks of letting the suspect go. Even someone driving recklessly, I can see making every effort to get off the street. BUT, should the officer shoot out his tires because some guy on a quad crossed a street into a gas station? Where's the REAL crime? Where did he endanger the public? Who did that harm and how does it justify risking lives or damage to a patrol car?


99% of the kids that do this, do not understand the consequences. And I would be willing to bet that most are so scared afterwards they'll never try it again.


Let's stick to busting real crime, like jaywalkers! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by: motox26
...In the end it really doesn't matter, but the only good that comes from accidents and tragedy's such as this, is that maybe we can learn from it.
My point exactly we learn from our past and thus the reason I am questioning, "Are there other solutions when the chase dangers exceed the crime."

In this situation the kid paid the price with his life. But can the agency learn and search better and cleverer ways to get the next 15yr old.

Or do we turn a blind eye to the accident and situation as a whole and thoughtlessly do it all over again. As society proves that seems to be the way or we would never have another war, right?

 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by: Raptorlegs
If we are going to endanger lives, then the risk of endangering the suspect, officer and bystanders should outweigh the risks of letting the suspect go. Even someone driving recklessly, I can see making every effort to get off the street. BUT, should the officer shoot out his tires because some guy on a quad crossed a street into a gas station? Where's the REAL crime? Where did he endanger the public? Who did that harm and how does it justify risking lives or damage to a patrol car?


99% of the kids that do this, do not understand the consequences. And I would be willing to bet that most are so scared afterwards they'll never try it again.


Let's stick to busting real crime, like jaywalkers! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
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Well said Raptor Legs.

This crime in my mind does not equate the level of danger the chase reached.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by: motox26
Originally posted by: MrDumass
Ya know what pisses me off about that story, is the fact that no-one even tried to help save the kid. Ya know the kid didn't just die suddenly.
I can honestly say that I could not sit and watch an innocent person die without doing anything. There is no way I could wake up everymoring knowing that I let a person die when I could have prevented it.
Correct the kid initiated (the kids fault and punishable but not by death), the cops gave chase, situation happened and now the cops are, oh it’s too unsafe to go out there and try to save this kid, although it was plenty safe to give chase on.

Double Standards [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]

Explain that to the mirror every morning Mr. Officer
 
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