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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 04:16 PM
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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This 15 yr old also put OTHER innocent lives at risk.Houghton Lake has a HUGE carnival/festival on the ICE the last TWO weekends in Janurary of every year,with THOUSANDS of ATVers/Snowmobilers present for these weekend events.Thats WHY 5 COPS on ATVs and Snowmachines were readily present in so many numbers.

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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by: MUDDY4LIFE
This 15 yr old also put OTHER innocent lives at risk.Houghton Lake has a HUGE carnival/festival on the ICE the last TWO weekends in Janurary of every year,with THOUSANDS of ATVers/Snowmobilers present for these weekend events.Thats WHY 5 COPS on ATVs and Snowmachines were readily present in so many numbers.

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Further supports abandoning the chase.

Still you have not provide your response to the public if it were your kid, would it be something like, "The little jerk got what he deserved and the police should be honored for their courageous effort to catch but not save my child."
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by: MUDDY4LIFE
This 15 yr old also put OTHER innocent lives at risk.Houghton Lake has a HUGE carnival/festival on the ICE the last TWO weekends in Janurary of every year,with THOUSANDS of ATVers/Snowmobilers present for these weekend events.Thats WHY 5 COPS on ATVs and Snowmachines were readily present in so many numbers.

Dont Run-Dont Worry!
Also I guess those innocent lives he put at danger were playing on that same thin ice, if they were not out there then they were in no danger. If they were then a 4-wheeler should be the least of their concern. And those courageous police officer's should consider at the VERY least those innocent bystanders safety before they flush a high speed quad in the midst of them.

As stated there were other means as identified by 1000's of other law enforcement agencies to pursue this kid
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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Micigan DNR officers doing it the right way:

CO Mike Daniel observed a quad running down the middle of the road. After it stopped, he found a young boy on the quad without a helmet, no license on the ATV, and no supervision. The father of the boy was finally found and a ticket was issued.

See the cop waited and safely issued the citation

CO Bob Hobkirk worked the late evening near Caseville and observed several PWCs operating well after sunset. One PWC was pulling a subject on a wave board 45 minutes after sunset without an observer. The officer watched them until they returned to the dock where he met them and issued a citation.

Again waited!!!

CO Kelly Knightlinger reported working on an ORV complaint that caused extensive damage to state land. Officer Knightlinger was able to locate the two juvenile violators who had fled from her earlier.

Here the young adults ran but were brought to justice later because the oficer decided to do investigative work, no chase ensued.

Come on the same "Justice" could have been used for the 14yr old. Radio the ATV cops I have a so and so 4 wheeler headed your way with a rider wearing a red helmet and blue jacket. Please lookout and follow him to camp or what ever, or even catch him in a safe inescapable situation I have him on video violating statue bla bla bla...

See this kid could have just as easily been brought to justice without a chase.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 05:38 PM
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One more of the Michigan DNR cops doing the right thing:

CO Block cited a mudbogger truck following an investigation. Returning from waterfowl patrol with Sgt. Brady, he was fueling his patrol vehicle when 2 quadrunners turned into the same gas station, saw the patrol vehicle and raced away. Officers were able to track suspects to a residence where appropriate cites were issued.

Did they drop the doughnuts and give chase, NO. They did police work and investigated using tracks were able to track and properly cite the two at their resident.

WOW able to punish the little buggers without chasing and causing more danger.

Unbelievable this kid lost his life.

If you are still under the impression chase is always the right and only thing to do then well…

Under the right situation chase may be necessary but I do not see where chase was necessary with the 14yr old.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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It should be at the descretion of the officer at hand if he pursue's the chase or calls it off.And in this case,some kid decided to run and lost his life as a result of his choice to run.The officers should not be held accountable for ANY part of this tradegy.

You asked how I would feel if this happened to one of MY kids?Well,thats a SIMPLE response.I KNOW that it would never happen to either one of my kids[boy 24 and girl 18]because I KNOW my kids and have raised them to respect LEO.MY kids would not place themselves in this situation in the first place.AND if it did happen,I would NOT hold the law accountable for the lost life of my son or daughter that made a bad choice that created the situation in the first place.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by: MUDDY4LIFE
This 15 yr old also put OTHER innocent lives at risk.Houghton Lake has a HUGE carnival/festival on the ICE the last TWO weekends in Janurary of every year,with THOUSANDS of ATVers/Snowmobilers present for these weekend events.Thats WHY 5 COPS on ATVs and Snowmachines were readily present in so many numbers.

Dont Run-Dont Worry!

Again, many people around to watch a kid DIE![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by: MUDDY4LIFE..I KNOW my kids and have raised them to respect LEO...
Naive parent, I would be willing to bet all the money in the world they have done something you are unaware of. Not questioning their raising for from your response I KNOW you would be a good parent and raise your children to the best of your ability but to say you know what they have done 24/7 from day 0 until their 18th birthday is naive.

I certainly agree it is up the officer to make that decision but as the several cases I have shown in situations like this a better decision to put forth a little effort and track the kid to his house would serve the same citation purpose without more endangerment which no mater how you split it was due to the officers chase.

Officer’s every day have to be accountable for their decisions so I do not see how you argue they cannot be questioned. They are human and make human decisions which in some case are not good decisions and they get fire or legal actions are taken on them as well. Cops do go to jail you know.

Ever heard of excessive force which is a REAL crime committed by law officers, in other words it is when an officer deems to use force that was unnecessary or excessive for the crime as I feel is the case in the listed accident.



 
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