bsb64 I understand and appreciate your passion, I really do. I just feel that the USA is caught up in a bigger picture than what we see. I am convinced that we are all being held captive to the world banking assoc. I have heard it called the Aluminati (not sure about the spelling). So I am convinced that it is out of GWB's hands. As a believer in Christ I know I am only here for a short time. And I only have so much energy and try not to get too involved in disagreement's that I can personally not do anything about. I do not agree with everything that gwb does, but I truly enjoy a man of God in the white house. And like I say even if you convince everyone here you are right. What then??? And from the reports coming out of what I concider to be a liberal media. The democratic party is in big trouble, less and less people are falling for their warm and fuzzy bs. IMO.