Well said.

Actually most of what i am reading here is making sense and I continue to find I am agreeing with the majority of it. What I am starting to question is where are those people who would argue with most everyone of us, and are they too busy doing Juniors homework while he is watching all the violence on his personal tv in his room? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/img]

But honestly though I wont say I am happy with the media and dont agree with some of the things in various video games etc I still stand behind the family and religion as being the stronger issue as those things would not have the same effect on a child in a loving family with a strong bond and structure as it would one in a parentless and faithless surrounding.

I mean I can understand how some of these games can get one pumped up, or thinking oddly from personal experience (some of us have been or are still hooked on Vice City LOL) but no one I know flew down to Miami and started blowing up evreything in sight either.

You can misread my concern for how our goverment works and why some things are like they are today, but I believe your following the simple idea of like or try it someware else (I think you suggest Iraq etc) is part of the problem why we see so few changes in the right direction. Maybe if more of us were willing to accept our own shortcomings etc and try to work on making things better for all of us and our children etc we would see more good things come from it than from offering others to move to a third world war zone.

I dont know where I saved it but I would think most of us have seen the email titles "proud american" before, and there are some others that I have seen that are 10 times better than that, but the idea is that as things change they should change for the better, and not the worse. I remember one where the author goes on about how all his high school friends had gun racks in their trucks parked outside school, and how no one ever got shot and not we have more laws to controll everything we do and no more firearms in open view etc, but we also have innocent bodies lying dead in our schools and no one seems to know why.

 

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Is this an atv forum or am I on the wrong board?

 

geez... you guys spank your kids in the butt????? that would have been better...

i got hit in the side of the head... once in a while "accidentaly" with a shovel (might explain alot)

its pretty sad to see how some kids in my school are... i'd NEVER swear to my parents, or around... well i go over their house and thats all they do. id be terrified to... my dad would kick the **** outta me... thats before id have to go through with my mom...

reminds me of a story... there were some kids in our neighborhood that were stealing things from everyone...cops couldnt find em. well they came to our farm, and started stealing stuff, such as tractor keys, and some of my other junk. well my dad caught em...the 2 of em tried to fight him...hopeless failure. well my parents brought both into the office, locked the door, and called the cops... after they came out of that office they looked scared sh!tless...

or my sisters friend... he ran and hid in the car when my dad yelled at me...seemed normal to me, he thought my dad was gonna grab the gun... parents are way too soft in my area...

 

MR Duma$$ you seem like a real good right wing conservative, republican , good to know there are more of them in the county then just in the farming comuunities

 

I have not read everything that has happend on here but I want to say that the highschool in my hometown was under lock down for the past week and a half. Threats were made, and they took it seriouse...they almost have to.

It is a sad day when kids (including myself since I am only 19) have to be under lock down to be safe. I dont know what to really say about the topic. It just horrifies me to think that one human will kill another just because of race, sex, age, or whatever be the reason. I have had several conversations with friends of mine on this subject and other subject that reflects the killing of other humans...and it all ends up in the same verdict...never good...weather it be a war or hate crime..

 

My dad was 6'2" and 260 when I was in HS. I got smart with him one time in a restaraunt and found myself under a table with a rapidly swelling right side of my head. He wacked me a good one when he asked where I had gotten three dollars that I had in my hand, the last thing I remember was saying, "Out of my pocket." My family as a whole has never been afraid to give an @$$whoopin. My sister didn't get as many cause she's a girl and now she is a felon with active warrants and a meth head. My brother and me turned out allright and I believe it's cause my parents wanted to assist us boys with our pain thresholds. My kids and my neices and nephews are all well behaved. cause they know, step out of line and get that @$$ whipped. As kids, our "Time out" was the time it took dad or mom to grab the belt and get the buckle off before the screaming and running around in a circle commenced.

 

oh yea...if i do sumthing bad or anything theres a a$$whooping in line for me...my dad will warn me but if i keep doing it then he comes after me....i remember when i was littler i always put socks in my underwear where my but is and me and my brother would do somthing bad and he would come up and beat our a$$es...and no the socks didn't work

 

Thats way too funny, but I bet you had a different answer the next time LOL

 

Sounds like you have the general idea, but I personally have a really big problem with the whole lockdown issue (if it was not obvious already [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] )

To me lockdown is something that is done in a correctional facility to allow those running it to remain in or regain control of it, and cause the cooperation of the inmates and also protect them from each other insure the safety of the guards etc.

The whole idea of having this happen to those of us who are "free" and allowing us or our children to be held potentially against our will says a whole lot more about controll and conditioning than it does about safety. I dont know about what anyone else thinks or would prefer etc, but I know damn well I wouldnt want to be having to rely on the actions of people without complete proper training (school administrators etc) for my safety while being held like a prisoner and denied free passage to exit etc. if I wanted to make decisions to protect my own safety.

Its not just the wording either (though lockdown sounds pretty bad if you ask me) but the actual action so dont misread this towards that direction. Sure calling it an alert may be an idea, but treating it as such and not following a similar procedure as found in various correctional facilities would be a lot better, and more "American" since it would not cause the potential for locking a potential threat inside with those who are supposed to be safe, and wouldnt be conditioning our youth to accept being locked down and controlled as an acceptable thing.

Things may not be as they were 20 or 50 years ago, but the actions I have seen happening lately (over the past 5-10 years) seem to be encoraging or causing the atmosephere to bring more unusual things to happen.

I dont have all the answers (as I dont believe any one of us does) but I do know that continuing to create a situation that becomes more and more restrictive can not be helping those who are screaming out or whatever you want to call it from all the pressures they face.