Question for you Quad_Man, or anyone else who has had a set of Holeshots on there scrambler. You have mentioned that the Holeshots improved handling. The stock Scrambler tires, especially the fronts, roll over in turns way to fast and even bottm out on jumps. I havent noticed that much body roll (suspension) in hard turns, but the front tires just roll and your riding the rims! Ive been running 6psi in the fronts. How much better are the Holeshots to resist rolling over under the heavy load of the scrambler. Also I think the rear stock tires have excellent traction, how do the rear holeshots compare? Thanks, GJ

 

The Holeshots are 6 ply, the stock 'uns are 2 ply.

That should tell the tale...

Rich in NJ

 

Never mind Quad Man, I searched some older posts and found where you had said "With the Holeshots, they won't fold under".

I see you have the aluminium rims with your holeshots. Are you having any problems denting them up? or do the better tires do a good job keeping them off the ground? Id rather not spring for nice rims just to have the banged up in a coiple rides. thanks GJ

 

GJ

The Holeshot Fronts are fantastic. No roll, and on ITP .190 rims, great. The stock rims are alloy as well, but I don't think they are as strong as the ITP ones. I had big dents in my stock ones, but since changing to Holeshots on ITP alloy, clean, and no dents.

TheJoka
400 Scram

 

I have Holeshot XCTs on my 99 Sport. The difference in handling is incredible. The fronts grab and go where you point them, hookup on the rears is instant, but you can still get the back to slide when you want them to with a little practice. The fronts do not roll over, but the overall feel is a lot stiffer due to the 6 plies. The standard aluminum rims do ding up easier than I would have thought, so I switched to the new T-9 Edge rims, they are advertised as being 30% stronger, and after running them for 5 months now, I can endorse this claim. I have yet to ding them up, and I do a lot of railroad track riding where I have to cross the tracks quite frequently. They are about $20 more than the standard rims, but are worth every penny if you ask me.

 

Another question about the ITP tires. Do they have good forward traction(front tires). I heard the ITP's are pretty good. But I am concerned about loosing the traction advantage that the front tires provide in the 4x4 Scrambler.

 

If you have a Scrambler 4x4, Bandits are the best choice I've seen for the front. They have the most aggressive tread pattern I've seen on a sport tire and seem to grab as good as the stock tires but handle way, way better.

 

Thanks You Guys for your input. I think I will enjoy this quad much more with the holeshots. Plus I need to fix the loose rivits on the lower steering bushing. Then it should handle more like a sport quad and less like my van. :-) Thanks. GJ

 

Not only do the rivets go bad, the whole steering post bushing goes bad. I haven't seen one last over three months. Get either a Hotseat or HPD lower steering post bushing, it will outlast your quad. It takes about 45 minutes to install and costs $35. It is one of the best mods you can do on your quad.

I still dont see why they would put such a device on a machine that costs so much.

 

Sorry it took so long to reply....

The stock Scrambler tires, especially the fronts, roll over in turns way to fast and even bottm out on jumps...How much better are the Holeshots to resist rolling over under the heavy load of the scrambler.

There is a huge difference here. I noticed sidewall flex some before changing over tires, but once you ride a good set of sport tires it is very obvious how bad the stock front tires. I haven't expierianced any tire roll-over at all since switching the Holeshots.

I tried my stock tires again a few weeks ago. WOW, what a difference! The stock tires are a lot easier to get to roll, and makes quad feel much more tippy, and it 2-wheels more. Not with the holeshots....

For instance, I like to 2-wheel or "bicycle" my Scrambler. With the stock front tires, you can do it, but it's very unpredictable. The tires do weird things, and it's tougher to balance. With the Holeshots, I can stand it right up on the side (if I want to) and ride it a good ways, or in circles, whatever, as long the ground isn't too rough. You can feel the stiffness of the tire, it still doesn't fold, even when on 2-wheels!

Also I think the rear stock tires have excellent traction, how do the rear holeshots compare?

Depends on your riding conditions. What type of surfaces/conditions do you have?

I see you have the aluminium rims with your holeshots. Are you having any problems denting them up?

Surprisingly, no. My stock rims are dented and dinged all over. My Douglas .190 are fine. Not sure if it's the strength or what, but I have hit a lot of stuff!

or do the better tires do a good job keeping them off the ground?

I think that's part of it. With less fold, and the rims not sticking out as much, they are less likely to hit a rock or stump. On my rears, I went to a 9" rim to get more rubber between the ground and the rim, to protect it.

Id rather not spring for nice rims just to have the banged up in a coiple rides.

I got the new rims for a few reasons. The first was so that I could switch between tire sets easy, not having to actualy switch tires to different wheels, but just unbolt them and put on a different set. The second was because the stock wheels are very ugly, and cheap looking. I thought the Douglas .190 would be stronger, and I know they look better. Last, and definatly not least, with new rims I got them off-set more so that it has a wiser stance. This improved stability in cornering.

Plus I need to fix the loose rivits on the lower steering bushing.

Definatly. The stock steering bushing sucks. If it's only the rivets gone bad, you can just removed them and replace them with nuts and bolts. If it is worn and has slop in it, look into the Hot Seat one, which is aluminum with the bushing brass. Not as much wear, the plastic wears out fast.

Good luck getting your Scrambler how you like it!