Wolverine vs. scrambler
#21
Bladebite,
Don't get me wrong, I very nearly bought a Wolverine when I bought the Scrambler, but must last machine was a Timberwolf & under the body, they looked a lot alike. I hope & I'm fairly sure yamaha upgraded things on the wolverine, but I just didn't like the horrible brakes, & bad handleing of the timberwolf & was afraid they would fall to close i those areas. I'd love to hae the scrambler a hundred or hundred & fifty lbs lighter, but for all it's heft, it'll run trails with the best of them. Possible not always in the lead, but seldom last. I was also a little concerned about the 1 lever brake system, but the scrambler does have a rear brake pedal that works as good as the rear brake on most quads & there single brake lever will stop the heft on a dime & give you 9 cents change. You can drive those scramblers into the corners on trails way deeper than most machines, dive on the brakes, & without ever having to shift, power through & off the corners like a rocket. That single lever brake deal saved my but the other day. I was going through a rr tunnel near home that is a mile long under a mountain, wide open as usual & came upon a pile of solid ice the width of the rr bed except fot the tracks & 3 & 1/2 feet high. probably ice that had fallen off a freight car. I dove on the brakes & got slowed to a crawl, flipped it into 4x4 & rode overthe iceberg. If I had been doing the same thing on that timberwolf, I'd have crashed & burned, because it never would have stopped like the scrambler, even though there's probably 10 mph or more difference between the two machines at full bore.
I guess you were refering to the superman plate on the rear of my scrambler, when you said, I think the scrambler is the superman of quads. I don't think it's the superman of quads , but does everything very good, when compared to other quads. The superman plate on the rear of my machine means far more than anything to do with the any quad . In june of 2001 my 16 year old son, Drew , was fataly injured riding in a abandoned quarry near home. He was wearing the best of equipment, but due to not knowing the area he was riding in & encountering a blind drop off of 40 feet he hit a large rock less than 10 feet from the top & his neack was broken, killing him instantly. There was no excess speed(i don't think I could get the scrambler with all it's power to more than 20 mp in the place where the accident happened if I tried) , no drugs or drinking. Just the misfortune of comming down one trail where you can't see the drop, rather than comming from the other direction where he would have seen it, guess that's what we call fate. Drew's friends had nicknamed him "Super" & whenever they would write something to him, such as in a yearbook, they'd used the superman logo of the letter s as the first letter of super. Drew was to get a new machine that for Christmas 2001 & his choice was a scrambler just like mine. So it's more of a tribute to my son than anything to do with my riding ability or the scrambler. My riding ability isn't a pimple on Drew's but when compared to his, & I know he'd hae loved to have gotten to get that machine, but that dam fate thing just popped up & none of it happened. So I bought the scrambler used in 2003 & will probably never sell it, even if they come out with some great upgrades on the newer scramblers. I'm sure I'll buy another scrambler at that point in time, but this one isn't going anywhere. I love riding & me y mission since Drew's accident is to talk to other riders about safety. Safety not meaning to just putt around but rather to always wear the best equipment, know the area you are riding in & never ride beyond your personal limit in riding tallant. I've run across many guys & kids riding without any or with bad equipment or maybe riding beyond their limits, talked to them, telling what happened to Drew & am happy to say have seem them many times since & they are wearing better equipment generally,& it seems like they are a bit more cautious, but when we pass we always wave. Most of these are teens & I'm 50, & they didn't blow me off,they listened & gained some wisdom that was hard learned & they appreciate a stranger caring if they ride home at the end of their riding day. I don't talk to them like an old man preaching at them, rather just another rider, who rides a hard as them, & enjoys the same thrills. That is the reason for the plate & sometimes them seeing the plate before hearing the story makes them ask if I think I'm superman, much like you did. I've found that that plate gives me that opening for them to ask that question & then they get the story.
There is no "superman", not me, or any machine, only Drew deserves the title "Super".
Don't get me wrong, I very nearly bought a Wolverine when I bought the Scrambler, but must last machine was a Timberwolf & under the body, they looked a lot alike. I hope & I'm fairly sure yamaha upgraded things on the wolverine, but I just didn't like the horrible brakes, & bad handleing of the timberwolf & was afraid they would fall to close i those areas. I'd love to hae the scrambler a hundred or hundred & fifty lbs lighter, but for all it's heft, it'll run trails with the best of them. Possible not always in the lead, but seldom last. I was also a little concerned about the 1 lever brake system, but the scrambler does have a rear brake pedal that works as good as the rear brake on most quads & there single brake lever will stop the heft on a dime & give you 9 cents change. You can drive those scramblers into the corners on trails way deeper than most machines, dive on the brakes, & without ever having to shift, power through & off the corners like a rocket. That single lever brake deal saved my but the other day. I was going through a rr tunnel near home that is a mile long under a mountain, wide open as usual & came upon a pile of solid ice the width of the rr bed except fot the tracks & 3 & 1/2 feet high. probably ice that had fallen off a freight car. I dove on the brakes & got slowed to a crawl, flipped it into 4x4 & rode overthe iceberg. If I had been doing the same thing on that timberwolf, I'd have crashed & burned, because it never would have stopped like the scrambler, even though there's probably 10 mph or more difference between the two machines at full bore.
I guess you were refering to the superman plate on the rear of my scrambler, when you said, I think the scrambler is the superman of quads. I don't think it's the superman of quads , but does everything very good, when compared to other quads. The superman plate on the rear of my machine means far more than anything to do with the any quad . In june of 2001 my 16 year old son, Drew , was fataly injured riding in a abandoned quarry near home. He was wearing the best of equipment, but due to not knowing the area he was riding in & encountering a blind drop off of 40 feet he hit a large rock less than 10 feet from the top & his neack was broken, killing him instantly. There was no excess speed(i don't think I could get the scrambler with all it's power to more than 20 mp in the place where the accident happened if I tried) , no drugs or drinking. Just the misfortune of comming down one trail where you can't see the drop, rather than comming from the other direction where he would have seen it, guess that's what we call fate. Drew's friends had nicknamed him "Super" & whenever they would write something to him, such as in a yearbook, they'd used the superman logo of the letter s as the first letter of super. Drew was to get a new machine that for Christmas 2001 & his choice was a scrambler just like mine. So it's more of a tribute to my son than anything to do with my riding ability or the scrambler. My riding ability isn't a pimple on Drew's but when compared to his, & I know he'd hae loved to have gotten to get that machine, but that dam fate thing just popped up & none of it happened. So I bought the scrambler used in 2003 & will probably never sell it, even if they come out with some great upgrades on the newer scramblers. I'm sure I'll buy another scrambler at that point in time, but this one isn't going anywhere. I love riding & me y mission since Drew's accident is to talk to other riders about safety. Safety not meaning to just putt around but rather to always wear the best equipment, know the area you are riding in & never ride beyond your personal limit in riding tallant. I've run across many guys & kids riding without any or with bad equipment or maybe riding beyond their limits, talked to them, telling what happened to Drew & am happy to say have seem them many times since & they are wearing better equipment generally,& it seems like they are a bit more cautious, but when we pass we always wave. Most of these are teens & I'm 50, & they didn't blow me off,they listened & gained some wisdom that was hard learned & they appreciate a stranger caring if they ride home at the end of their riding day. I don't talk to them like an old man preaching at them, rather just another rider, who rides a hard as them, & enjoys the same thrills. That is the reason for the plate & sometimes them seeing the plate before hearing the story makes them ask if I think I'm superman, much like you did. I've found that that plate gives me that opening for them to ask that question & then they get the story.
There is no "superman", not me, or any machine, only Drew deserves the title "Super".
#22
Hmm, so here is my 2 cents. I have had my scrambler going on 3 years. I have never found the ground clearance to be an issue, It has performed excellent with no breakdowns (knock on wood), has gone anywhere my friends sportsmans have gone, it is fast and fun, it has racks on the front and rear, and I have the winch kit for it on the front. ( i think they quit making the kit) It is personally my favorite quad that seems to have the most versatility. evryone is right though that there are a lot of great quads out there. I've just had the best luck and most fun with the scrambler. check my pics for some of the mud that it has made it through.
#23
I love the scrambler. It was my choice over the wolverine. I bought a scrambler but the guy turned me down.... I liked everything about the scrambler besides low ground clearance, and a chain drive(bad for mud) If I were you. Id go with the wolverine. You get extra power in low gears, higher ground clearance, easyier to jump, wheelie, handle. And its more of a utility atv.
#24
LOL guys. I am continually amazed that anyone could possibly consider that the Wolverine is or ever will be in the same class as a Scrambler. The Scrambler has almost 3 1/2 inches more rear suspension travel than a wolverine. It has 1 1/2 inches more travel in the front. It has considerably more power, more ground clearance under the chassis. More safe single hand braking. Selectable four wheel drive instead of locked wheels. Steel braided brake lines. 6 inch wide track for much better stability. More durable front strut suspension. Automatic transmission/clutch. Twenty inch shorter turning radius. To suggest that a Woverine will jump better is laughable.
Come on, wise up; you Wolverine guys are too much [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
BryceGTX
Come on, wise up; you Wolverine guys are too much [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
BryceGTX
#25
I agree with bryceGXT, there is no comparison other than they are somewhat in a unique class together.
In all the shootouts it (Scrammy) is the hands down winner, always has been, always will.
In all the shootouts it (Scrammy) is the hands down winner, always has been, always will.
#26
Originally posted by: irsonly
well, your wish is about to come true.. scrambler upgrades for the 06 model are coming.. So be patient a few more months, it's coming...
well, your wish is about to come true.. scrambler upgrades for the 06 model are coming.. So be patient a few more months, it's coming...
#27
Originally posted by: BryceGTX
Twenty inch shorter turning radius.
Come on, wise up; you Wolverine guys are too much [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
BryceGTX
Twenty inch shorter turning radius.
Come on, wise up; you Wolverine guys are too much [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
BryceGTX
thats one thing i hated about polaris, they claimed a sportsman had a tighter turning radius then my kodiak... kodiak owners know what im talkin about
whats comin on the 06 models? i may just hafta trade mine in if they come out with sumtin better for me (700, low range)
#28
Hey Gopher500. Turning radius:
I realize that. The Wolverine has a listed turning radius of 153 inches. The Scrambler has 83 inches plus 48 inches for width makes 131 inchs. So the Scrambler has a 22 inch shorter turning radius.
BryceGTX
I realize that. The Wolverine has a listed turning radius of 153 inches. The Scrambler has 83 inches plus 48 inches for width makes 131 inchs. So the Scrambler has a 22 inch shorter turning radius.
BryceGTX


