i think u do need to go on the only thing the scrambler has on the sportsman is the shocks the sportsman and the scrambler are the same machine with only lighter weight different ground clearance and a chain.

 

they dont call it a SPORTsman for nothin

 

LOL!!! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]Whatever. I give up on this thread. I could see where this is going. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img]

 

i have a friend that has a brute force its a fast machine but not very good in mud

 

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I am not trying to start an argument here so please don't take me the wrong way. Making it through tough situations has a lot more factors than just the machine such as, speed (HIT IT HARD!), tires, weight transfer, etc. With that being said, I have been using my diff lock on my Brute Force less and less lately. There are many times that true 4wd is needed but I was suprised to find myself making it through some stuff in "unlocked" 4wd. Most guys that do serious muddin with the Vinson end up getting the Detroit gearless locker for $350. I do agree it should have a locker from the factory just like the King Quad. Maybe '06 will have that
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I have to agree with you OffRder15, Driver ability does play a big part. I should have mentioned he is a 300lb rookie with the coordination of a overweight 1st grader. But, when I jumped aboard to try my luck getting through the mud, I felt helpless. I once againg agree I'm wasnt use to the machine.
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Hate to bust your bubble on the Sportsman being more sporty than a Scrambler but my buddies all ride Sportsmans and they dont hold a candle to a Scrambler on fast or tight trails.One was trying to follow me through the woods and busted his rack trying to get between the trees I flew through.Topend is close but try to wheelie or jump a Sportsman .......not fun!Now I have seen modded 400 Exporers that have a sporty ride but not as much as a Scrambler.

 

ok, it will be a cold day in hell before a sportsman is the sportiest atv out there. unless its heavily modified, its not gonna be sportier than a scrambler. ive put 1000's of miles on the scrambler and sportsman, and there is no comparison for sportiness. one main factor in this is the IRS vs SRA...which im not gonna get into right now. but compare weight...572vs697( or up)...theres a 125 lb difference, which doesnt seem like alot, but in hard driving, you notice it. the sportsman is great in its element, no questions asked there. itll go anywhere you want it to, and rides like a caddy. but to call it the sportiest atv out there is just plain out wrong, its way too heavy and bulky.... its like saying a raptor is the best utility out there....

back to the topic. it really depends on your riding style. the vinson is more utility oriented, while the scrammy is more of a play machine. for less experienced riders, id say go with the scrammy. its a real simple machine to drive. its got f-n-r, so that makes it all the easier. just give it gas and go. for work, the vison has it hands down. it comes to down to the intentions of the ATV... dont know if that sounded right? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]

 

The 500 Ho sportsman beat the Vinson in the ATV action shootout and was faster in a drag. The Scrammy would kill it!

 

hey jimmy where is there a site where it talkes about the sportsman vs the vinson?

 

Its in the latest issue of ATV 4 wheel action. The BF 650 won the shootout but the sportsman was 2nd and topped all the 500 models.

www.4wheelatv.com