finally, somebody who knows what hes talking about.......

 

A new GM truck is a nightmare. The only thing worse is a Dodge. I would not have one if you gave it to me IF I had to keep it and maintain it long term.

If you buy one get rid of it as soon as the warranty ends.

 

Got rid of my last two Dodges before they had 36000 on them. Still get calls from both dealers wanting to sell me another. Last time on called, I told them to sell me a piece of sh!!t, at least that would be easier to take care of.

 

Bullshiit,

Spoken from a typical Ford idiot who doesn't know his a$$ from a hole in the ground. Why do you think Chevy's have the reputation for being the longest lasting trucks on the road? I've had two trucks. I sold my '89 3/4 Suburban 4x4 when it had 195,000 on it, and it gave me no trouble. And the guy I sold it to drives it everyday still, and has also had no problems. My new 2004 3/4 Suburban has been flawless in it's 43,000 miles so far. You need to keep the stupid comments to yourself. You sound like your from the Honda forum.

As far as a Dodge?? I wouldn't have one. But my cousin has a '91 with a Cummins that is pretty good to him.

 

easy now sp600towtruck, this thread has gotten out of hand.

"Why do you think Chevy's have the reputation for being the longest lasting trucks on the road?"

I don't know the stats, but I would venture to say that the answer to that question is more about MARKETING STRATEGY than actual fact. GM started that claim in thier ads and GM fans grabbed onto it with both hands. maybe there is evidence to back up the claim, quite possible. I mean no disrespect to anybody here, I have owned all three flavors of full size pickups and currently drive a '95 GMC Sierra SLT with all the bells and whistles and 66K on the odometer. the underneath of it is bone dry, free from leaks, the rear main may lose a few drops between oil changes but to me that is acceptable, the previous owner probably parked it facing down hill and the seal suffered the consequences. I bought it with 35K and haven't put a dime into it. my point is that just like an ATV purchase you take a chance with whatever brand you buy. the '87 Ford I had was awsome, a great workhorse, the '95 Dodge was a bit of a wanderer down the road but I found out after selling it that it was a front end component that I could have replaced to correct the problem. just like ATV's they all have their issues.

personally, I prefer the Ford HD set up before they changed the front end. maybe the new design is holding up, I haven't done the reasearch, but to me a real truck has solid axles front and rear with leaf springs all around. sure my GMC has a decent ride, but for high capacity hauling and all terrain durablility I don't want IFS with boots to tear and torsion bars that succumb under load. most truck owners don't leave the black top or carry more than groceries so the GM set up works great, but just look at one with a plow and how it sags.

I'm hoping Ford makes a deal with Cummins and starts putting the 5.9L in the HD's. that motor is in so many applications from generators to large material rollers weighing more than 41,000 pounds, that says a lot about the motor. the inline 6 configuratioin is simple and reliable and places the turbo on the side of the motor where it should be, not sitting on top of it like a V-8. again, I'm not trying to stir the pot, just sharing my opinion and 2 cents.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

peace

 

Sorry zerowick,

Those comments usually come from people that have no experience or any info on the subject, or they know someone with 1 bad experience, and poof....they all must be bad. It's just ignorance, that's all. Especially when I know different.

 

No experience?

I have been an auto mechanic for about 30 years.

And who said anything about a damn Ford being any better?

 

don't get me wrong boys, I didn't say Ford was better, ok maybe I called it a "real truck". what I meant was that I prefer the Ford suspension with solid axles and leaf springs. I'm sure many GM trucks have performed well in abusive situations with their IFS, but you can't argue that the solid axle set up has fewer moving parts and no boots to tear. I'm just saying I prefer simple for the long haul. perhaps two identically equipped trucks, one chevy, one ford, would survive equally well if put through the same abusive,hypothetical scenario. I still prefer the Ford for the solid axles. for now, my GMC with IFS treats me very well as a comuter and occasional firewood/hay hauler. not better, different.

peace

 

here are two questions for a guy who likes the solid axle

how many guys have replaced CV boots or axles 3 or 4 times in the life of their truck???

then ask how many super dity ford or 2500 dodge ownes have replaced axle u joints in their trucks??

I know that when I worked at DODGE I would regularly do axle joints on a truck twice while it was still under warranty

 

Most people I know with solid axles end up putting outer wheel u joints in there truck at
about 10 years or 100,000 mi, mainly because the joints dry up & start spitting rust, (u can
get after market joints that are greaseable for some of the trucks), there are some that
will not last this long & some that will last longer, I am sure of that, due to use. With the
rubber boots & cv joints they may have a better chance at lasting a little longer with all
the grease packed in there, but all it takes is one rip of the boot and in comes all the water
dirt & sand, then they are all done! & this could happen at any time or mileage. Because alot
of trucks never go off road this is not some thing everone has a problem with, but for us that
do, this is a issue.