I have one, and I have alot of drivability issues. It runs pretty crappy... It constantly stalls at low speed. Turns off when you rev it. Hard starting. Just wondering what others have done with them. Under WOT it runs strong, just everywhere else.

I have the JT jet kit in with the 175 main blue needle fourth clip down, pilot I have tried from 1 1/8 turns to 2 turns out. I put the wideband 02 on it and it's blowing 14:1 a/f ratio everywhere but it is pegging wicked lean at idle. Even if you pull the choke the a/f ratio only goes down to 18:1. I ordered a 45 pilot from the KTM dealer I may try that but I was just wondering what other guys have experienced with this bike.

It ran like crap from the factory. But I have since modified the stock exhaust and airbox. I have covered the airbox holes though during tuning to see what affect it had, None on the drivability issues. Need solution quick going riding this weeked at hatfield Mcoy!!!

I had a member from a different board (bansheehq) say that it may need the valves adjusted, It does have some mild ticking at idle but nothing I would say is alot of valve noise. Just sounds like a solid cam V8 engine. I got the Promotion feeler gauge to set the valves if necessary.

Any help appriciated.

 

The problem could be a host of potential problems. Why did'nt you take the brand new atv back to the dealer when it did'nt run correct off the showroom floor? Now you have tinkered with the carb and exhaust and the next supercross star working on your atv will say it does'nt run correct because you jacked it up. Get your wallet back out.

 

I thought stock on the fuel screw was 2 turns out, on the Outlaw 525. (I may be wrong) You may need to try 2.5-3.

Do a little searching over at www.predatorowners.com several guys with owtlaws, over there.

(Disregard the yammi rider above)

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: garyc660R

The problem could be a host of potential problems. Why did'nt you take the brand new atv back to the dealer when it did'nt run correct off the showroom floor? Now you have tinkered with the carb and exhaust and the next supercross star working on your atv will say it does'nt run correct because you jacked it up. Get your wallet back out.</end quote></div>

I don't take my ATV's to the dealer to get worked on because I have yet to meet an ATV mechanic that can wrench his way out of a bathroom stall. I'll figure it out. Have fun spending your money on nothing.

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: garyc660R

The problem could be a host of potential problems. Why did'nt you take the brand new atv back to the dealer when it did'nt run correct off the showroom floor? Now you have tinkered with the carb and exhaust and the next supercross star working on your atv will say it does'nt run correct because you jacked it up. Get your wallet back out.</end quote></div>

BTW do you even know what half of what I posted even means? Seriously, who the F are you?

"the problem could be a host of potential problems" care to elaborate on that statement? Guess not, cause you have no idea.

 

Problem is polairs dealers have their hands full with this bike since if they are not also a KTM dealer, they don't really have any experience with the engines. So that just adds to the whole uhhhh, we'll take a look at it and get back to you....... weeks pass, oh, yeah uh were looking at it, head scratch..... week passes ...............repeat for a month +

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: ojcool

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: garyc660R



The problem could be a host of potential problems. Why did'nt you take the brand new atv back to the dealer when it did'nt run correct off the showroom floor? Now you have tinkered with the carb and exhaust and the next supercross star working on your atv will say it does'nt run correct because you jacked it up. Get your wallet back out.</end quote></div>



BTW do you even know what half of what I posted even means? Seriously, who the F are you?



"the problem could be a host of potential problems" care to elaborate on that statement? Guess not, cause you have no idea.</end quote></div>

1. No sense in copping an attitude....and honestly what do you expect? Let me break it down....what you posted means you bought a new atv that will not run correct and you have decided to allow more air through the engine and tinker with the carb without addressing your first problem.....again, it did not run correct off of the showroom floor.

2. The problem could be just about anything....timing, carb, intake, wiring, as I posted....ANYTHING. Since you are posting, you obviously don't have the means or cannot basic troubleshoot for the potential problem. Since you do want to do your own work, which is a good thing, I would recommend ordering a factory maintenance manual and that should give you a good start on the problem at hand. First year quads can be a pain in the sense that manufacturers use owners as guinea pigs for updated quads the year after. Hopefully Polaris done their homework. Good luck.

 

I have to agree with Garyc... You bash the Polaris mechanics saying they could not wrench their way out of a bathroom stall. But you are the one poking and hoping and posting here for the answer to the original problem when you just added 3-5 more places to check...

Like my friends dad used to say... " keep the hands off the finger" ?!?!?!?!?

 

Wow well this sure has gotten off topic. Sounds to me you did to much all at once without making one change and running it to see whats wrong. Now it could be alot of the things you changed doing it. I would HIGHLY recommend checking the valves which you are supposed to do after the first 10 hours and every 10-15 after that. It takes 45 minutes, its really easy. Sounds to me seriously like the valves are off. And it may not be getting enough fuel. I have had mine for a few months and have had no problems. The first time I checked the valves though, every one of them were off by about .001. The KTM is an excellent motor. It is VERY proven. Polaris has nothing to do with the motor. Nor is it first year for this motor. That has nothing to do with it. That motor has been around for a while and won lots of races. It is high performance, and when you buy high performance expect high maintanence to keep it at peak. If you wanted something slow with minimal performance and Maintanence, buy a yamaha.

 

I'd say you're too rich

i couldn't run the blue needle from JD on any clip once it got above 50 degrees, it was fat EVERYWHERE. Also: to have the richer blue needle and a 175 seems REALLY excessive in my experience w/ my 525. I'm at like 900 feet in southern michigan and am currently running the red needle on like the 2nd clip (not sure haven't messed w/ in a while, but that's close) and the 165 main. That produces a very nice brown plug with no lean spots or rich spots anywhere. Mien behaved exactly like you are describind when i had the blue needle and a 168 in it. The shutting off was due to it loading up because of it being to rich. Also: i have done away with the O-ring mod because i operate in tight woods on the michigan XC circuit an most of the time in tight woods, my throttle is between 1/4 and 1/2. Constantly going back and forth in that range yeilds a LOT of pumping for the accelerator pump. In my case this also caused the Outlaw to load up and stall occassionally. Probably due to the fact that unlike the bike, when i am in third in 48" wide woods and give it a slight hit, it may not break loose instantly, i.e. shooting too much fuel for the engine's RPM.

Suggestions:
Goto Red needle and a 165 main. (maybe 168 if your exhaust is heavily modded b/c 165 is PERFECT for me w/ stock exaust and EHS lid) And get rid of the O-ring all together. I know lots of guys love them and for dunes/fields/MX the extra response is great, but they're no good for XC and NOT good for Hatfield Mccoy if that place is anything other than wide open all the time (and i'm told it can get pretty tight) do these things and let me know how it works out. Also, the Valve adjustment is important but if there's not lots of valve noise it's probably not at fault. I'm of the opinion that you're VERY rich.

Good luck, hope this helps, i'll try to look for a reply tonight before i goto work (i work third) and i'll try to help again if you need more info