this morning i took oof the clutch cover and i took some stuff off to inspect it. first off i am not really knowledgable on automatics. which part is the primary clutch and which is the driven clutch? I took off the wheel that is attached to the transmission and i noticed on the backside of the wheel on the shaft there were two washers. i also took apart the portion of the clutch off the motor- primary?. i noticed the spring and all washers, bolts, weights etc. looked fine. the belt was in perfect condition. where do i go from here. what washers are the ones that wear out. particularly the fiber and brass ones i have read about? how do you get the portion of the clutch attached to the motor off? i want to further inspect it but want to know if i can take it off and any tips on how to do so. since it is not my quad i dont want to force anything

 

. I have been having a creeping problem and it has got so bad now that I can't even shift it without turning off the engine.

I removed the drive cover and found the belt to be tight or very little deflection and upon closer look that the belt seemed tight to the engine side of the drive clutch. After removing the belt and seeing that the drive clutch shaft has grooves and the belt wasn't riding in them, I put the belt back on and positioned it in the middle of the drive clutch (in the grooves) and started it up and it didn't creep at idle at all even after a little acceleration it stopped and didn't creep. But when I gave it a good dose of throttle and let off it would not disengage and would creep.
It seems that after the drive clutch closes it drives the belt tight to the engine and the grooves won't let it get back to where it should ride.

I looked at the belt and found it to be pushed tight against the engine side and not down in the grooves. If I push down and move the belt in the grooves it will work again.

So I tried shimming it out and that didn't work and I then checked alignment and center to center, they are fine.

I then thought I could shim the driven clutch sheaves apart but after taking it apart and reading I see that can't be done. I am thinking that there may be something in the Hilliard system causing it to creep.

I checked all springs they are good
I checked buttons and ramps good

I have a lot of experience with snowmobile clutches but the grooves in the drive and not shimming the secondary have me wondering what to do!

i copied this from another thread but this is my problem exactly!!!!! only on an 03 700 efi. HOW DO I FIX IT!!!!!

 

CORRECTION !!!!! THE QUAD I AM WORKING ON IS A 2005 SPORTSMAN 700 EFI. how do i know if this model has EBS????? can i tell by looking at the primary clutch assembly?

 

It should have an EBS sticker on the clutch cover.....I have the same machine..

John

 

the clutch off the motor is your primary, you need a clutch puller and an impact to get that off the motor. you can only take the cover off that keeps the spring in there, from there you need to go to the dealer and have them take it apart the rest of the way, special tool that holds the clutch and another that goes around the spider and takes the two sheaves apart. the brass and fiber washers are in between the clutch sheaves

 

I have a 2003 Sportsman 700 and have the identical problem you described. Mine is difficult to get into gear and likes to creep when in gear. I see where you sent this in a few months ago. Did you find out what the problem was?

 

All Sportsmans were EBS by then. If it wasn't EBS it wouldn't have grooves in the belt. Does the shifter linkage need adjustment, or has that possibilty already been eliminated?