My symtec get very hot......The thing that I like the most is that you can turn the heat on the grips to a higher level than the thumb and vice versa.....Now this is just my experience with them...I love them.......I put them on just before winter......They also have a light which shows what setting you are on....And also there is a bright and a dim setting for that light because it is pretty bright for daytime and at night you can run them on the dim setting......Just another nice feature......If you decide to get them make sure you read and follow the directions closely with the wd40 and all.....It's very important because this will aid you in getting the grips on all the way and not get stuck half way......You do have to use a little elbow grease installing them but it's well worth it......Another thing is to soak them in hot water before installing them too...This will help relax the rubber and make it easier to get them on...2 thumbs up for this product but once again this is my opinion....

John

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: badazzpred

RickCJ7 Im assuming they dont help then?</end quote></div>

It helps, better than nothing, but not anywhere near the results of the heated grips. Mine gets hot enough to burn bare fingers but when running 20 mph at 0 degree they don't keep warm enough.