Same thing down here: we have(or rather had) about a 60 acre low lying area of land around our nearby lake run by the Army Corps of Engineers that had been open since the 60's that everyone used to ride bikes and was closed about four years ago when a couple purchased a parcel of farmland just above this area and built a home. Constant complaining about the smell and "sounds like a giant bee hive" RUINED their peaceful weekends as written in the local paper and without any notice this spot was closed and fenced off by the Corp of Engineers forbidding ANY off road use! It only takes ONE complaint and rights can be taken away! I been around bikes for over 45 years and we sold KTM,Husky,Husaberg and great strides have been made in improvement on 4 stroke design,power and noise reducing exhaust systems,but seemed like the 2-stroke division began to be treated as a "step child" and less improvements on technology plus selection has been cut down drastically EACH year! This is just from what I've seen and been around and honestly believe 2-strokes have basically advanced as far as they can and for whatever reasons,EPA requirements,pollution,noise,they will be PHASED out! Just my OPT

 

im not in a corner at all tough guy. the 800 thread you didnt know how to read. here you have no idea what you're talking about. a 4 stroke mx bike is louder then a 2 stroke mx bike..........from farther away. up close they're both just loud. i can go in my neighbors feild with my banshee and you may not hear it... if i take the ds.. you hear that! both have aftermarket pipes and up close the banshee is atleast as loud

 

2 strokes can be epa compliant, they just choose not to just as you said. yes 2 and 4 strokes probably both cause problems. a loud bike is a loud bike. all i know is what i know and since 4 strokes took over, mx tracks have been closing more frequently

 

Again, I won't argue that they couldn't. But what would it cost? And who pays that cost? And even then, the epa could come back and say at a later time that wasn't good enough. Then what? That's a lot of money to be out of.

 

true. my big thing is i want everybody to have a choice. im big time against getting rid of 2 strokes. i love both!

 

I hope this thread gets civil real soon.........

 

i think it has been..

 

All my rides are under the required DB level..my 2 strokes need to be 99db or under and the 250,s check at 94..my CR500 is 97 db and thats with a lot of mods..

Agreed...

 

Must have been over 10 yrs ago..

 

Comparing a KX 125 to a 650 quad is like comparing a apple to a orange..

Bottom line is a 90 db loud thumper will be heard farther away than a 90 db loud 2 stroke..