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#11
11-07-2015 | 01:11 PM
Hp between a smaller displacement engine and a larger one might be close but less displacement generally means less torque. The smaller displacement engine will have to rev higher to make that hp. Peak hp will be at a higher rpm. But a $1400 difference in price is a lot. To get the 567cc engine, you have to step up to the Sportsman 570 which obviously costs more and it makes 44 hp. I have watched many of these shootouts and obviously they are set up to make one machine look better than the other. I watched one with a Grizzly 700 and Sportsman 850 and other than the 850 slightly edging the Grizzly in a drag race, the Grizzly placed higher in all the other categories. Yamaha set that one up so that's why the Grizzly did better.
I guess I'm somewhat fortunate there are some nice trails very close to where I live. I only have to drive a few minutes to get there. I'm in Southern Illinois and there are a few nice places within 70-80 miles as well. I have been down to Land Between the Lakes In Kentucky, that place is great but is about a 4 hour drive from where I live. Its been several years since I've last been there. Went to Badlands over in Indiana back in 2009 I believe. Similar distance from me. Nice place as well.
I guess I'm somewhat fortunate there are some nice trails very close to where I live. I only have to drive a few minutes to get there. I'm in Southern Illinois and there are a few nice places within 70-80 miles as well. I have been down to Land Between the Lakes In Kentucky, that place is great but is about a 4 hour drive from where I live. Its been several years since I've last been there. Went to Badlands over in Indiana back in 2009 I believe. Similar distance from me. Nice place as well.
They needed to replace the 400HO, this is it.
#12
11-07-2015 | 01:14 PM
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Well apparently they do say it has 570cc. That seems like very low hp numbers for an engine the same displacement as the Sportsman 570 which makes 44 hp. I don't see a Can-Am Outlander 450 in the shootout though. It makes a lot more power(38 vs 31 hp) and would leave all of them far behind. I don't see how they needed to replace the 455cc engine in the 400HO. They could have made an even less expensive budget atv by keeping the 455cc engine instead of detuning the 570 to make so much less hp. Its almost down to Honda hp numbers now lol. Honestly the Sportsman 570 doesn't cost a lot more and that will hurt sales of this machine. Most people will simply pay the $1000 extra or so to get the more potent 570cc engine.
#13
11-07-2015 | 01:19 PM
Polaris had a 455cc engine previously used in the Sportsman 400. I even looked at the Polaris website and it doesn't give displacement for the 450HO but I suspect that must be the engine they're using. Why would they call it a 450HO if it had 567cc? That wouldn't make sense. The 455cc engine is still a great engine and it will make much more torque than the smaller engine previously used. And more torque than the 420cc engine in the Honda Rancher also shown in the shootout.
The 455, 498, and the XP 550 engines were all fuji supplied and are gone.
Polaris has confirmed the 567cc engine in the 450HO, just watch the intro video.
#15
11-07-2015 | 01:35 PM
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I guess that makes sense. The name is still misleading though. Of course it makes more power than the old 455cc engine, its over 120cc more. I'd be in the group that would opt for the Sportsman 570 to get the extra power. Id rather have both power and torque. Honestly for close to the same price you can get the Yamaha Kodiak 700 base model and then you jump up to much more displacement. I think its the king of value priced atvs right now.
#16
11-07-2015 | 01:43 PM
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What's the difference between the Kodiak 700 and Grizzly 700 besides price? I don't know anything about the Kodiak. I'll probably get a 570 anyway if they still make it when I'm ready for a new one. I've always had enough power with my 500s and never saw the need for anything much bigger.
#17
11-07-2015 | 01:46 PM
I guess that makes sense. The name is still misleading though. Of course it makes more power than the old 455cc engine, its over 120cc more. I'd be in the group that would opt for the Sportsman 570 to get the extra power. Id rather have both power and torque. Honestly for close to the same price you can get the Yamaha Kodiak 700 base model and then you jump up to much more displacement. I think its the king of value priced atvs right now.
#18
11-07-2015 | 01:49 PM
What's the difference between the Kodiak 700 and Grizzly 700 besides price? I don't know anything about the Kodiak. I'll probably get a 570 anyway if they still make it when I'm ready for a new one. I've always had enough power with my 500s and never saw the need for anything much bigger.
#19
11-07-2015 | 01:56 PM
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The Outlander 570 would be a great choice as well. I guess the point is there is a lot of competition in this segment. Rightfully so. This class is "just right" for most people. You get a machine that is very capable but has plenty of power to be fun to ride too. And at a price most people can afford.