hey ive got a 01 500 ho and one day i was riding sunk it in deep water and after i got it and running it crept and i couldnt shift while it was running turned out the belt had shrunk and was always spinning with the primary clutch anyways the only thing that should make a cvt tranny creep is a belt to tight so its possible they gave ya the wrong belt

 

Just to add, I had bought a Goodyear belt to run on the quad, and gave it to the dealer to put on. He as well said that there are 2 kinds of belts, EBS and non-EBS,. and I had bought the wrong one, the right one has internal "grooving" inside the belt that runs 'alon' the inside of the belt. the Good year had only cross grooves on it. I can't figure it though, 'cause the belt is gripped on the sides by the clutch sheaves, not the inner grooved portion, so go figure?

 

The inner lengthwise grooves engage with the one-way sprag in the center of the drive clutch to make the EBS work at idle. Otherwise, once the sides of the pulleys let go, the machine would freewheel.

 

I had the same exact problem. My dealer first adjusted the shift linkage with no success. He then told me that the belt needed to be replaced. He stated that he had seen several H.O. with a mfg defect in the belt that caused premature gripping. My 2001 H.O. was crawling as well making it difficult to go into gear. My H.O. was fine after he replaced the belt.

Hopes this helps.

 

Now I could be mistaken but... Have you ever noticed it is only the people with the Sportsman that have this clutch creep problem?

Magnums do not seem to do it nor do the Xplorer 400s. Therefore ... let me submit my humble opinion to the creeping phenomenon.

Either the engine is moving in it's motor mounts or the rear transaxle is somehow shifting in the frame/or the frame is tweaking causing the drive belt to ride on the inner sheave of the primary clutch.

If you add a second washer to shim the secondary clutch and the repair is only temporary.... something is loose/misaligned. The engine or the transmission.

There have been waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to many incidents of this happening and it is always on the Sportsman models if my memory serves me correctly.

 

Thor,
you-da-man! i'm with you on that theory! 2 of my 3 Sportsman do the 'creep thing' while my old '95 425 Magnum stands still as a deer right before i pull the trigger!
MT

 

Thor, you could be right. After all, how many times do you hear about a Sportsman needing the shift linkage adjusted? If you look, there is nothing to get out of adjustment, unless the tranny slips in the mount, or the frame flexes, yet I hear that fairly often. I have about 5300 miles on my Xplorer, and never needed to touch the linkage. I wonder if the 2 are not related (the tranny somehow moving in relation to both the engine, and shift box).

 

Aha, now I know what them lengthwise inner grooves are for, I never looked down inside the clutch sheaves to see them, but yes, you are right. As far as creeping goes, usually I only had to adjust my idle speed, but once it was right on, leave it, or your constantly messing with the throttle assembly on the handlebars and the rest of the fooling around.

 

Thor,

You may be right, however, it might be more of a problem with EBS models. I know the newer magnum 500's have ebs, but far more sportsmans are sold than magnums. I can't remember the last time I saw a magnum on the trail...... I may be wrong, but this is just what I think.

Waylan