Reduce weight
#21
AZ400L...I actually put a scale under each of the tires and them added them together for a total!! WIScrambler....Don't start that crap about buying a quad suited for jumping....if you shave the weight, and have a good suspension, a polaris quad is hard to beat on jumps...I should know!! As a matter of fact...check out my web site...there is a 500lb. Polaris utility getting some sick air!! That happens to be my brother.My MX 400 Sport
#22
Daran~
I checked out your site and you do have an awesome machine. That is, though, an awesome MX machine. I just have to ask you...why on earth would you choose a Polaris for MX when there are so much better machines for a starting platform? The reason I said he might consider a new machine is because he doesn't have a few grand to stick into a machine just to have it equivilent to one of the new sport machines. Granted, you have taken your machine to the extreme and that's why yours can jump with the best of 'em. But how would it do in the woods? A modified 2 stroke can be kinda peaky in its powerband. I've read it and experienced it that Polaris's front suspension and weak tranny case do not make a Polaris a good jumper. Going from my Scrambler to the DS650 is an amazing jump in performance. In my case 6.5" of strut travel does not compare to 12" of A-arm travel. To make everybody happy, my original post should have read more like the following:
In stock form, the Polaris is a decent jumper for small and medium sized jumps. Once the jumps get big, the front suspension and weight can result in harsh landings. Also, once in the air, the extra weight will limit the ability to adjust the machine for a smooth landing. Given enough money, a Polaris can jump with the best of 'em. For the average "Joe" rider, he will probably not do the full race setup. If you had a different machine that was a little lighter and more powerful in stock trim, you might be more successful at jumping. A new machine might be your cheapest option of you're talking "bang for the buck". You could get much better jumping for about the same cost of your Scrambler.
Is that better Daran?
I checked out your site and you do have an awesome machine. That is, though, an awesome MX machine. I just have to ask you...why on earth would you choose a Polaris for MX when there are so much better machines for a starting platform? The reason I said he might consider a new machine is because he doesn't have a few grand to stick into a machine just to have it equivilent to one of the new sport machines. Granted, you have taken your machine to the extreme and that's why yours can jump with the best of 'em. But how would it do in the woods? A modified 2 stroke can be kinda peaky in its powerband. I've read it and experienced it that Polaris's front suspension and weak tranny case do not make a Polaris a good jumper. Going from my Scrambler to the DS650 is an amazing jump in performance. In my case 6.5" of strut travel does not compare to 12" of A-arm travel. To make everybody happy, my original post should have read more like the following:
In stock form, the Polaris is a decent jumper for small and medium sized jumps. Once the jumps get big, the front suspension and weight can result in harsh landings. Also, once in the air, the extra weight will limit the ability to adjust the machine for a smooth landing. Given enough money, a Polaris can jump with the best of 'em. For the average "Joe" rider, he will probably not do the full race setup. If you had a different machine that was a little lighter and more powerful in stock trim, you might be more successful at jumping. A new machine might be your cheapest option of you're talking "bang for the buck". You could get much better jumping for about the same cost of your Scrambler.
Is that better Daran?
#23
Again, nice machine Daran. I'm in to custom stuff and my 500 is coming along. Check out this link.
500 Pics
Did you weigh your 400 dry? And did you cut off the stock steel grab bar and bolt the aluminum one on? It's hard to tell from your pictures on the site.
I don't know why people are all over the Scramblers. Sure, they are heavy stock. 387 lbs is not heavy at all, and Daran didn't chew up his wallet (I don't think) or machine getting there. In fact, most of the money he spent is exactly what others spend on there quads to customize them for dunes, MX or whatever. Longer swingarm, Nerfs, bars, wheels and tires. Like him, I'm just taking off the stuff I don't use for my kind of riding. We all buy better suspension components and I love to customize and tinker. I do not care to fly 35 feet across a canyon. Responsibilities to others and myself keep me closer to earth.
Thanks for the spacer and stud suggestion Modquad. I'm adding the spacers in a few weeks. I love what the wheels did for the handling.
Oh, and BTW, I weighed the stock front bumper and skid guard. It's and even 10 lbs. I bet my Krome-lite is around 2, and I'll weigh it when it gets here later this week. I'll have to recalc, but I'm down from 523 lbs to about 460 now. (and still on the tread mill) [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
500 Pics
Did you weigh your 400 dry? And did you cut off the stock steel grab bar and bolt the aluminum one on? It's hard to tell from your pictures on the site.
I don't know why people are all over the Scramblers. Sure, they are heavy stock. 387 lbs is not heavy at all, and Daran didn't chew up his wallet (I don't think) or machine getting there. In fact, most of the money he spent is exactly what others spend on there quads to customize them for dunes, MX or whatever. Longer swingarm, Nerfs, bars, wheels and tires. Like him, I'm just taking off the stuff I don't use for my kind of riding. We all buy better suspension components and I love to customize and tinker. I do not care to fly 35 feet across a canyon. Responsibilities to others and myself keep me closer to earth.
Thanks for the spacer and stud suggestion Modquad. I'm adding the spacers in a few weeks. I love what the wheels did for the handling.
Oh, and BTW, I weighed the stock front bumper and skid guard. It's and even 10 lbs. I bet my Krome-lite is around 2, and I'll weigh it when it gets here later this week. I'll have to recalc, but I'm down from 523 lbs to about 460 now. (and still on the tread mill) [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
#24
WIScrambler...I started out on a 250 TB...then went to a 1996 400 Sport(trail mod)....and ended up on a full race '96 Sport. I am blind in my left eye and have more important things to worry about than what gear I am in! Yes, I can and do ride manual shift machines, I just prefer not to race one. How many times have you heard the phrase" I missed a gear, that is why I lost" or "I knew I should have shifted again coming out of that corner." If you ride as often as I do, chances are you have heard these , or similar phrases, quite often. An automatic quad takes all of the guess work out of gearing....providing you have your machine set up right. I have been clocked on my machine, in 400ft., at 87mph., with a 13/26 set-up. (That was by a state cop that lives near me, so I know it was accurate.) I run a 13/28 or a 13/30 depending on the size of the jumps.(a larger rear sprocket allows for more chain "give" when using a chain tensioner) How many quads do you know can say they have accomplished that. I am not bragging, I am just stating that I think I have the PERFECT machine for the racing that I do.....fast, light, nimble....and it loves to fly! I hope you didn't take my previous post the wrong way...I am one of those people that doesn't like to step on anyones toes, unless I really have to.
#25
Daran,
After seeing your 400 sport at Haspin acres a few weekends ago I was truly impressed with that machine. It runs like a raped ape and sounds just as mean. I agree that the Polaris has a distinct advantage over other machines once you get the suspension upgraded and weight down. One thing I never hear mentioned is the distinct advantage a CVT has over a manual tranny. There isn't a drag racer on the planet that wouldn't give his left arm for a CVT(in a car) that can withstand the abuse of a 1/4 mile strip. They can't make one for cars - yet, but Polaris does make one for our quads. A CVT allows the motor to stay at peak hp through the entire acceleration curve unlike a regular automatic or manual tranny, albeit it is slightly less efficient at delivering that power to the rear wheels than a manual tranny. I hope to see you again out at Haspin and I really like the grab bar I bought from you.
After seeing your 400 sport at Haspin acres a few weekends ago I was truly impressed with that machine. It runs like a raped ape and sounds just as mean. I agree that the Polaris has a distinct advantage over other machines once you get the suspension upgraded and weight down. One thing I never hear mentioned is the distinct advantage a CVT has over a manual tranny. There isn't a drag racer on the planet that wouldn't give his left arm for a CVT(in a car) that can withstand the abuse of a 1/4 mile strip. They can't make one for cars - yet, but Polaris does make one for our quads. A CVT allows the motor to stay at peak hp through the entire acceleration curve unlike a regular automatic or manual tranny, albeit it is slightly less efficient at delivering that power to the rear wheels than a manual tranny. I hope to see you again out at Haspin and I really like the grab bar I bought from you.
#26
But they do make a tranny like that for cars Rockey. It's called the powergilde. Most classes do not even allow it to be run se it is just awesome and kicks the hell outta the competition. I don't know exactly what event I was at, but I spoke with a driver and he gave me that explanation. I'm sure a lot of other classes allow it since I've seen them run often.
You can take a car with much less power, leave it at 4800 RPM all the way down the track and run the same times as someone with much more power.
You can take a car with much less power, leave it at 4800 RPM all the way down the track and run the same times as someone with much more power.


