lets see if i can accuratly tell yo uall the mods my bro did to his banshee

its originally a 1993...stock

now its
lonstar a-arms and swing arm...plus 2 on both

cool heads, carb kit, delta air box, fmf pipe and silencers,
1998 stock frame, beadlocks with holeshots and much much more..i'll try to get all the exact specs...but it was big bucks i'm sure

 

 

Have you ever watch the GNCC race from this year, a GIRL won on a new YFZ 450, not a BANSHEE, understand not, a, banshee! why is that? because a banshee can't hang with that bike tricked out, its impossible. I just bought a new yfz 450 and straight stoke running 4.6's in the 300ft. no banshee does that stock. not even w/ pipes and a K&N jet kit, you might wanna analyze what you said.

 

If you weren't too lazy then you would have read the entire post and seen that he asked about TRAILS! And who cares about stock? So what you can do 4.6's on a stock YFZ [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]. Make the race 500ft and you get smoked, a shee was probably just hitting 5th in a 300ft drag, so what. The fact is don't even start talking crap about drag times with a YFZ compared to Banshee it just makes you sound dumb.

Any one can get a $3,000 doller shee port it and you'll get PISSED ON in a drag, understand PISSED ON. As for your moron comment that hard core riding is mx. That would be why a women is dominating on that hard core bike huh. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]. I could be wrong but i dont think many bikes in mx have more then 50 hp.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] Try rideing a 125 HP Drag shee and then whell talk about hard core. Your probable one of those riders that I smoke in a drag after they talked crap. Then turn around and go wa wa wa I I can turn faster then you. SSSWWWEEEETTTTT !!!!
Go back to reading you dirt wheel's!


I appoligize for any other person who takes offense to this. It was only met twards one ignorant individual.

I am done with this..

 

The YFZ is quicker then the Raptor and Banshee but right when they hit top speed. There be catching fast and soon the YFZ is will be seeing Dust. STRAIGHT LINE Dont want post saying well MX this or put a corner in or something. Period Straight line, Level service. Not Hill or nothing Straight line

 

Not to **** anyone off or anything, but usually you would do exactly opposite of what lebanshee did to set a 2 stroke up for trail use. Here's what I would do to a banshee if I were going to set it up for trail use (in order of importance and cost effectiveness):

1) Smaller front sprocket
2) Larger rear sprocket (if needed)
3) Full set of skid plates (.190 for everything but the swingarm which should be .25)
4) Taller tires to increase ground clearance for deep ruts on trails
5) Flywheel weight to soften the hard kick of the powerband, which is safer on the trails
6) Aftermarket air filter kit
7) Aftermarket pipe designed for low end torque

Think about this: Your going up a really steep rough section of the trail, and all of a sudden the powerband kicks in? What could happen? That's why lightening up the flywheel makes the hit of the powerband even worse. Making it heavier makes is softer of a hit, because of the increase in inertia, which will help to keep the front wheels on the ground while going uphill. That's what I would do to the banshee if I were equiping it for trail use.

I'm curious to hear what people think between the banshee and raptor on their suspensions? How different are they? Is the old school suspension of the banshee as good as the raptor's newer technology? Is it fully adjustable?

Chris

 

Ok I will explain why this works for me and many others.
1) Smaller front sprocket- This will suck If you have any mods. There will be way to much shifting while in the trail. Bigger front sproket allows you to stay in gears longer.


2) Larger rear sprocket (if needed) Not needed

3) Full set of skid plates (.190 for everything but the swingarm which should be .25) Good mod

4) Taller tires to increase ground clearance for deep ruts on trails. ( 20" inch after market tires are over
2" taller then the stock 20" believe it. I have both to compair to. But you could run 22" but not needed but get 6 ply walls.

5) Flywheel weight to soften the hard kick of the powerband, which is safer on the trails.( This allows the power band to come quicker not harder. Way better throttle respones. never heard anyone ride trials with one and not love it. All my friends have it to and we only ride trails.

6) Aftermarket air filter kit ( a must)

7) Aftermarket pipe designed for low end torque ( any mid or low end pipe is great.)

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As for weighting the fly wheel down. I have never heard of that. That would delay the time it takes for the power to kick in giving much worse throttle response.

As for the hill you should probably be in the band before you hit it and nothing modding the fly wheel will stop the hard hit.

as for the suspension differences. The banshee sitts lower and is more stable. The raptor bottoms out more when jumping. Both can be adjusted the same I believe.

 

hey 2004LEBASHEE, I THINK WHAT I SAID WAS 300FT, RIGHT? NOT 500FT, SO IN A RACE THAT WAS 300FT. FOR A TROPHY U WOULDN'T BE GOING HOME WITH IT. IT'S JUST THE OPPOSITE IN 500FT. BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN A QUAD TRACK OVER 300FT..........SO I GUESS U'D BA CHITOUTTA LUCK! NOW I'M DONE WITH THIS!!

 

I totally disagree! The banshee is set up for high speed riding where constant changing of gears isn't needed as much as it in during trail riding. 2 strokes notoriously don't lug around like a four stroke, so replacing the front sprocket with a smaller one helps to let you ride around at slower speeds, stay in the powerband more when needed, and give you an increase in low speed torque that's need on trail riding. Going the opposite direction will increase your top speed, decrease low end power, cause you to ride around in 1 & 2 gear a lot more often, etc. This is personal preference, of course. Sure, the banshee has a lot of power, but having more low end power, lower gearing etc. helps to decrease how much clutching you have to do during slow speed riding, period.Yepper! It just depends on what type of riding someone does. I personally ride in places like Tellico and Windrock a bunch. Tellico has some huge rocks, and ruts, and without big enough tires it makes life a lot harder to make it through some of the sections of trails.The heavier the flywheel weight the softer the powerband hits. The lighter it is, the harder it's going to hit. If you like blasting up a hill and all of a sudden have the powerband kick in full force lifting the front wheels off the ground, then more power to ya. If you want a more controllable, forgiving powerband, then go with a heavier flywheel weight from Steahly or something similar. A good example is when stock, when the powerband hits the front tires lift off the ground. When the flywheel weight is on, there's a chance(depending on how heavy you go) that the tire stays planted.I agree!Depends yet again on what type of riding you do.

Nope, not at all. I've mentioned exactly what it does above. Again, unless you've done the mod, you'd never beleive me.That's interesting! I'm going to check into both machines, weigh out the differences and see what the skinny is. Thanks for the help!

Chris

 

[/quote]I totally disagree! The banshee is set up for high speed riding where constant changing of gears isn't needed as much as it in during trail riding. 2 strokes notoriously don't lug around like a four stroke, so replacing the front sprocket with a smaller one helps to let you ride around at slower speeds, stay in the powerband more when needed, and give you an increase in low speed torque that's need on trail riding. Going the opposite direction will increase your top speed, decrease low end power, cause you to ride around in 1 & 2 gear a lot more often, etc.

Just curious after reading this whole post do you have a banshee or are you planning on getting one? Just from my personal experiance, this may be beacuse I ride pretty open trials. But after putting just pipes and K&N I tried a 13, 14 stock, and now a 15. the 15 is way easyer to drive. the 13 I couldn't even keep the front wheels down and had to shift way too much because I was out of the power way too quickly. the 14 was a little better but after trying the 15 I never want to go back. With the 15 and mods I can stay in second in any tight situation and still have plenty of gear to accellerate. However If you dont have any mods to a banshee you are right this would be a terrible choice because you can't pull the 15 at all.

Put it this way for anyone it's like $10 for a new gear just try it. You might like it, and you might not but it cant hurt. Plus it helps al bunch for the occasional drag.