2-Stroke vs 4-Stroke owners
#81
08-23-2005, 10:06 PM
2-Stroke vs 4-Stroke owners
ATV source has some dyno charts of a 250R but because this site says that it is a forbidden link and wont let me post it.
Looking at your link the 800 produces 73 NM or torque 1 ftlb = 1.355 NM
The charts say a stock 250R produces 46.3 ft.lbs or torque so this is 62 NM for comparison of torque. Having only 11 NM less of torque for and engine less than a third the size speaks volumes about the power a two-stroke makes. The bomb link doesn't list a horsepower figure but I would venture to say that the two stroke's is higher. The caveat to to this is the overall powerband (area under the curve) would be higher for the 800. Also I don't know if Bombardier specs are at the wheels so in reality the 250R torque may be higher.
Combine what I have said above with the fact a 250R or similar two-stroke sport quad weighs in at half the wieght of an 800 and power-delievry of the sport quad (not engine alone) is greater.
To check out the link enter this into your browser with out the space between atv and source.
http://www.atv source.com/articles/product_reviews/2001/102901_250r_dyno_charts.htm
Looking at your link the 800 produces 73 NM or torque 1 ftlb = 1.355 NM
The charts say a stock 250R produces 46.3 ft.lbs or torque so this is 62 NM for comparison of torque. Having only 11 NM less of torque for and engine less than a third the size speaks volumes about the power a two-stroke makes. The bomb link doesn't list a horsepower figure but I would venture to say that the two stroke's is higher. The caveat to to this is the overall powerband (area under the curve) would be higher for the 800. Also I don't know if Bombardier specs are at the wheels so in reality the 250R torque may be higher.
Combine what I have said above with the fact a 250R or similar two-stroke sport quad weighs in at half the wieght of an 800 and power-delievry of the sport quad (not engine alone) is greater.
To check out the link enter this into your browser with out the space between atv and source.
http://www.atv source.com/articles/product_reviews/2001/102901_250r_dyno_charts.htm
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08-23-2005, 10:46 PM
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#84
08-24-2005, 01:32 AM
2-Stroke vs 4-Stroke owners
I think it's quite obvious one of the uninformed youth among us has NO mechanical experience whatsoever. His apples to oranges comparisons are concrete evidence of his lack of knowledge. Let's all bow to the 800 Outlander (which is a fourwheeler by the way and he can't use it due to its width (though he does claim to haul a cart up mountains with a motorcycle. ?????? Wheelies should be a bigger drawback than the all-powerful 2 stroke. ???????).
If we can all just hop up on the "this isn't really applicable" bandwagon (that seems to be getting worn down faster than a wrung out 4 stroke), I'll like to draw everyone's attentionto the city buses we see eveyday. In many cases these are 2 stroke diesel powered monsters.
I have had several machines of both the 2 and 4 stroke variety. If you ride the 4 as hard as the 2, you're in for a financial surprise. I know this from first hand experience. Not because my boyfriend's dad's nextdoor neighbor's roommate's panties were in a bunch and he blamed it on mixed gas.
If we can all just hop up on the "this isn't really applicable" bandwagon (that seems to be getting worn down faster than a wrung out 4 stroke), I'll like to draw everyone's attentionto the city buses we see eveyday. In many cases these are 2 stroke diesel powered monsters.
I have had several machines of both the 2 and 4 stroke variety. If you ride the 4 as hard as the 2, you're in for a financial surprise. I know this from first hand experience. Not because my boyfriend's dad's nextdoor neighbor's roommate's panties were in a bunch and he blamed it on mixed gas.
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