RM 125 or Z 400
Oct 10, 2005 | 11:08 AM
#41
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From: In Da Skys
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Originally posted by: ep
Mr Dumbass: I was saying "I better watch it" Geez. I was busting on myself for being from the south.
Motox--can't take a joke obviously....you have insulted everything i've said since the beginning of this post and i turn around and give some of the same and all of a sudden I'm a 14 yr old? Whatever. Let's not forget we're all on the same side here.
So if I offened anyone -SORRY!
Mr Dumbass: I was saying "I better watch it" Geez. I was busting on myself for being from the south.
Motox--can't take a joke obviously....you have insulted everything i've said since the beginning of this post and i turn around and give some of the same and all of a sudden I'm a 14 yr old? Whatever. Let's not forget we're all on the same side here.
So if I offened anyone -SORRY!
No offense here. I just mis-understood where you were going with that last comment. No biggy. Even though your sorry sounds sarcastic, I will accept it and offer mine the same, SORRY!
Oct 10, 2005 | 11:26 AM
#43
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Like the old daying---"opinion are like @ssholes...everbody's stinks but yours" LOL...You know a lot about the subject, no doubt which makes it easy to forgot most people don't. I was lucky enough to grow up in a house with a toolbox in the garage (more like 12!). A good protion of people any more have never even heard of a torque wrench you know?. With that in mind i was just trying to give the kid some sound advice about what would be the easiset option (in my big fat stinky opinion).
Again, sorry to ruffle your feathers.
Again, sorry to ruffle your feathers.
Oct 10, 2005 | 11:48 AM
#45
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First off, I will apologize as well for maybe getting to defensive to quick. It is hard to tell sarcasm over the internet sometimes.
Second, I don't know what the kids abilities or experiences are, or how supervised he will be so I don't know if a 125, 250f, or a tamer bike would be good for him. But I do know that he is new to "what is out there", and I don't want some kid, or anybody new to the sport, to go out a buy a machine that is going to require a lot of maintnance. Somebody who goes out and buys a 250f not knowing what they need maintnance wise, will wind up with a broken bike and huge repair bill. Im trying to help a fellow rider out and let them know of the baggage that comes with these machines.
Second, I don't know what the kids abilities or experiences are, or how supervised he will be so I don't know if a 125, 250f, or a tamer bike would be good for him. But I do know that he is new to "what is out there", and I don't want some kid, or anybody new to the sport, to go out a buy a machine that is going to require a lot of maintnance. Somebody who goes out and buys a 250f not knowing what they need maintnance wise, will wind up with a broken bike and huge repair bill. Im trying to help a fellow rider out and let them know of the baggage that comes with these machines.
Oct 10, 2005 | 12:13 PM
#47
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I agree. The last thing he needs is a broke bike with no way to fix it except taking it to the dealer and paying God only knows how much to get it fixed. If you go back and read his posts he obviously is just trying to get into the sport and knows very little and is extremely limited in his experiences off road. Someone else said it really depends on who (ATV or bike) he'll be riding with as well as where he'll be riding and they're right. We all know it's no fun to be the only bike or only quad so really i think it comes down to that. Now, as far as maintenance there's two levels---running and rolling! To keep a thumper rolling there's some work, more than a pinger no doubt but it has always been in my experience that a 4 banger is just plain easier if you're not trying to be competitive. 2 strokes are simple but present more difficulties for someone new to all this---again, in my experience. I think he really needs to talk to some frinds, ride both and make up his own mind. One other thing to keep in mind is new/used. I'll take an older pinger over a 4 stroke anyday but if he's looking to drive his new toy off the showroom floor then, well, you know where i stand.
Oct 10, 2005 | 12:43 PM
#48
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Those 6-packs work pretty good.
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From: Oeste Del Tejas
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EP, you do realize there is a difference between something like a crf230f and a yz250f? Because I seriously can't tell by your posts.
Oct 10, 2005 | 12:44 PM
#49
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The best bet for this kid is to go with a traditional thumper. Not one of the new CRF/YZF style, but an XR style that, unlike the new 4 strokes, offer the traditional 4-stroke reliability. The power will be more linear, thus allowing the boy to learn the skills associated with properly riding a motorcycle.
Conversely, if he were to go the ATV route, I would not put him on anything larger than a 300ex for the same reason. Controllable power, that is not to much for a novice to handle.
Conversely, if he were to go the ATV route, I would not put him on anything larger than a 300ex for the same reason. Controllable power, that is not to much for a novice to handle.
Oct 10, 2005 | 12:52 PM
#50
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I was one of them that said get what you rill be riding with. That is part of the reason I only ride dirtbike's except for the winter, all my friends have went the 2 wheeled route.
Again, the reason I say the 4-strokes are so unreliable is because we are talking about high reving MX machines, not yesterdays thumper. If someone is getting a trail bike I recommend a 4-stroke, like a XR, TTR, DRZ, KLX, all of these virtually require NO maintnance besides oil changes. So Im not talking about thumper in general, just the current, high reving machines.
Again, the reason I say the 4-strokes are so unreliable is because we are talking about high reving MX machines, not yesterdays thumper. If someone is getting a trail bike I recommend a 4-stroke, like a XR, TTR, DRZ, KLX, all of these virtually require NO maintnance besides oil changes. So Im not talking about thumper in general, just the current, high reving machines.