Not much suspension travel, but it doesn't need much. Its not a jumper

 

The gear reduction of the 300 is twice that of the 700 and the power is half as much, so in a pulling competition where traction was guaranteed, it should be a stalemate.

 

Look how freaking huge the 700 is. I told him he shoulda put the truck on the rack.. it woulda looked less funny.



He's had that quad for almost 5 yrs and this is the only pic I have of it. But this is the quad that's ALWAYS getting stuck somewhere and somehow. If its not being pinned between trees, its not being able to climb or descend a hill, or not being able to climb over a log... its always something. I wish I had $5 for everytime I've had to run the winch cable on that thing. It is a pretty quad and its faster than you would ever want to go, but if getting from A to B is the goal, better have a bulldozer in front of you (or a good friend to run your winch cable all the time lol).

 

Oh, as a matter of fact, he's out buying a 300 king right now LOL! Now that's an endorsement!

 

I wouldn't mind one of those myself...I keep an eye out on craigslist lol.

 

I got mine for $600... well he got me mine for $600 and found one for himself in not quite as good of condition for $700 lol. Unfortunately I get to work on both of them.

Let me know if you want my opinion on winches. I've done a lot of research and tested a few.

 

Hey Randy do you always run your tires "backwards" in all conditions?

 

Just a few days ago I spent the whole evening researching that. What I found was the reason tractors run tires with the V hitting the ground 1st is that the mud falls off easier. If they run them the other way, the mud clumps on the tire and the tire loses traction. What got me on the subject was I was watching stuff like this and thinking "wouldn't they get better traction if the tires turned the other way? It would scoop and throw hunks on mud". Tires spinning that fast wouldn't have a problem with mud clumping anyway.

You get traction 1 of 2 ways. 1) Static friction between rubber and ground. Once the tire slips, you have no traction since dynamic friction is very small. 2) Thrust. Once a tire breaks loose, you throw hunks of earth like a rocket engine thrusting. Hence why I like paddle tires.

Also found farmers run their tires backwards on pavement to save wear. And everyone runs front tires backwards on 4x4 because steering is improved and reverse traction is improved. Manufacturers recommend front tires be backwards on 4x4s.

I remember a long time ago reading in a mag that tires should be V 1st when running on dry ground, hard pack and should be run A 1st when running in loose stuff. The idea is the A would gather the loose together and thrust forward. My Kenda tires are bi-directional and seem to back that theory up.

I don't know... it just seems I get better traction with them backwards. If you notice on the 4x4 my front tires are backwards and the backs are proper. I didn't think the back tires had enough of a pattern to worry about. I guess it depends how the tire is made. You just have to look at it and figure it out in your head or maybe try it both ways and see which is better.

 

Oh and notice how the Argos have their tires
If you're in loose, soupy stuff (ie water), the tires work best backwards.

 

I'll give it a try with the kenda's and see what works better. I see where you're coming from when you look at them as a "paddle" tire.