Wow, I didn't know it got that cold out there. I'd have to go a good 800 miles north before I'll ever see any snow. Shoot, I'd be happy if it would just rain more than once a month (and this is the rainy season)!

I've heard those 400's get stuck a lot. Vince said the 230 has a really short swingarm and that gives it more traction. I've been toying with the idea of adding 4 inches to mine in hopes of losing some of that traction.

Those heaters that use the propane tanks are expensive to fuel. Last yr I was running thru a tank every 2 days. That's about $15 a day or so. I put a wood burning stove in for $200 and now I have to keep the door open to cool it off inside. Of course, I have a forest full of free wood too, so that helps. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

 

Most all of my relatives from the mid-west and down south think that since I live in Cali, I like, totally, like must live at the beach, tearing up gnarly waves, like daily!

Truth of the matter is, Sacramento is 90miles to the ocean (cold San Francisco ocean!) and 90 miles to Lake Tahoe, average snowfall, I am guessing 60 feet, not an exaggeration.. Ask the Donner party![img]i/expressions/devil.gif[/img]

Up until about 5 years ago, people thought of Sac. as a "cow town", which was cool with me.. NOW all the people from the Bay area figured out how "cheap" the property is here (by Cali standards) and started moving here...

No more cow town.. no more easy commutes, no more, mid west syle town in California,farms being split up to put too many houses too close together. guess it was just a matter of time, till my paradise was discovered.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]

Gotta jam, surfs up dude! All I need are some cool buds, and sum tastey waves, and I'm alllright!! (Jeff Spicoley)[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

 

Yeah, that was totally my thoughts dude... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] No, I had no clue, but figuring you were out west I figured the temps were a little higher than the east. I looked at weather.com at the averages and its a lot like around here... Only It's never been 114 here... I think 105 is the record. So, its a little cooler for me on average.

90 miles will get me to atlanta. (Lord I hope I never have to go there...). Or Nashville. Other than that, I'll end up in BFE. Maybe 2-300 miles to the ocean....

I think there are about 30,000 people here, plus the illegals from mexico that come to work in the carpet mills. LOL, funny, one of the illegals won the lottery, but couldn't claim it because he wasn't a resident of this country. They had the "big check" ready for him n everything.

A guy came around a couple months ago and wanted to buy my land and put a subdivision on it. I basically told him to get lost. If anybody was going to put up a subdivision, it would be me... And I ain't doing that until I'm crowded out by other houses getting too close (and its looing like that's not too far down the road either). [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]

 

Randy, u said you just did your coil and firing system.

What did you replace, after mine warms up it's either a combination of ticking valves and or weak spark. (after the coils are warmed up)

I had it pinned trying to climb power lines today and noticed my exhaust pipe was bright red. (Have to flick the throttle to start her warm, if she sits for 5 she'll start on the 1st kick)

I'm assuming a weak spark?

 

If your spark is not fat n blue when you pull on the kicker with your hand, get a new stator coil. I think they are 40-60 bucks from bikebandit. I can get a better looking spark now from by 230 than I can from my bayou that has an electric starter.

Red exhaust? Is it running lean? You can't change the ignition timing, so that cant be off.... Running lean and too much advanced ignition timing are the only 2 things I can think of to make it that hot.

Ticking valves??? Sure it aint spark knock? Detonation? You are going to have major problems if you don't fix whatever is causing that red pipe. (ie. blowing a hole in your piston or melting it).

 

To be honest,,,, I still don't think you should be using that needle. From all my slaving away and hours spent with that carb, I can't see how that needle will ever work right.

 

Ticking valves, could that be lack of oil? One of the oil passages has some gasket material blocking it? Lil too much gasket in a tube?

BTW, still hate the Pats, hopefully they will lose in the playoffs.........

 

This yamaha I'm working on ran out of oil and the wrist pin welded itself to the rod and the piston,,, and that caused the piston to **** to one side and eventaully weld itself to the cylinder. Surprisingly, the cam was fine. The rockers had a little scoring going on, but I was surprised nothing else got damaged. It took about 1/2 hr to get the oil plug out of the bottom just to drain the teaspoon of oil out. I had to beat a 18mm socket on with a hammer (it was a 19mm bolt, lol). That was the only way to get it off. No wonder nobody ever changed the oil,,,, but wonder why they never added any??? Like they bought a brand new quad and never gave a thought about oil. Just ran it until it died one day.

I know suzuki changed the diameter of oil passages thru the yrs on the 230. My service manual has additions to it describing the changes. I think 270quadsportguy was talking about that before.

 

whats spark knock?

did you have a chance to rejet with the new coil? where were you on pilot jet and what do you think should be in it? I'm runnign a 250 main (same) and changed my pilot from a 22.5 to 17.5

Someone was telling me I may have too much overlap causing the ticking and idling problems.

It acts as if its running rich when warmed up? Wants to bog out unless I raise the idle ALOT

I can kick start it if I wfo right at the right time when kick starting hot

cold it fires right up

any valve guys here think they would agree on the overlap issue?

..and if i were to let it idle, whack the throttle open wicked fast, it bogs about 3/4 of a second and then revs up quick. Wondering whats causing the 3/4 of a sec hesitation.

If i roll the throttle open at a reasonable speed its fine (eg 1/4 to full or riding and open it)

 

"whats spark knock?"
http://autorepair.about.com/cs...linfo/l/bldef_743.htm

http://www.answers.com/topic/s...-knock?cat=technology

Mine had spark knock one time a long time ago when I was beating the hell out of it on the mountains. I let it cool down a bit and never heard it again. That was way before I had my TM28.

"did you have a chance to rejet with the new coil? where were you on pilot jet and what do you think should be in it? I'm runnign a 250 main (same) and changed my pilot from a 22.5 to 17.5 "

I haven't had a chance yet, but I'm thinking the 12.5 pilot will do the trick. I am still planning on doing it tonight,,, if nobody else's car breaks down and I have to tow them home and fix it....

"Someone was telling me I may have too much overlap causing the ticking and idling problems."

I HIGHLY doubt it! The hotcam stage 1 couldn't be much of a change over stock. Maybe if you had a stage 2 or something.... Even then, with a big overlap, you still shouldnt have any ticking. Just a rough idle, kinda like a harley.

"It acts as if its running rich when warmed up? Wants to bog out unless I raise the idle ALOT"

It doesn't do it when cold? Because the bogging out part sounds lean. Rich just makes it lose a little power usually, unless its REALLY rich. Are you sure you don't have any air leaks at the carb???? If I remember right, the TM28 is a bit smaller than the stock carb and you have to really tighten the clamps to get it to seal.

"cold it fires right up"

Could be a weak spark. I had problems forever with hard starting when warm. I actually wanted to throw the thing off a cliff before! I absolutely hated that quad! Life is easy now with my new stator.

"any valve guys here think they would agree on the overlap issue?"

I strongly disagree with that!

"..and if i were to let it idle, whack the throttle open wicked fast, it bogs about 3/4 of a second and then revs up quick. Wondering whats causing the 3/4 of a sec hesitation. "

The lean needle you are using! Mine don't do that. Your needle is too lean to give it enough gas when you open that big 28mm venturi. Too much air is getting in and that fatass needle wont let the gas in fast enough. You need a sharper taper needle,,, I dont care what sudco says.... They are full of #$%^ all the way up to their #^&$ if they think that needle will work with a 28mm venturi on a 1/4 liter engine!