I paid $1900 for a Kasea 90 what a POS I could have paid $2500 for a Suzuki lt80 and Suzuki wood of supported the product unlike Kasea the $600 difference is well worth it Resale on the Kasea sucks about $900 for a 1 year old quad
stay away from Kasea they SUCK!!!!

 

Gees, $1900 to $2500 is a LOT of cash for such a little quad. I've still got a few years to figure this out but gees.... 2 Grand for a quad the size of a dog.?!?!

So much for the college fund.

 

Alright, time out. Now first off, Kasea makes a good quad, BUT, they do also put their name on a line of quads in which they DON'T make which are crap and are from Asia. The one's in which they do make themselves I have heard nothing but praise as I was in the market to get one for my little guy and am still going to get him one. They are great little quads. But you gots to remember, there are some out there that are not TRUE Kasea bikes at all, just crap *** cheapo's. Just my .02
peace

 

why bother?? honestly, i say 10 years old is the cut off for ATV riding, then get just buy 200cc ATV, and it'll last them years

 

10 year old cut-off....no way. My oldest is ten and has 4 years riding experience. Once he graduated from a LT50 to a TRX90 two years ago, we really started to have some fun. We still talk about our riding/camping trip to Wisconsin two years ago when he was eight. Some days we rode over 80 miles. I'm glad I didn't wait until he was ten to start making memories like that.

Jaybee

 

jaybeecon55, I'm with you. There is no magic age that a child can start riding. I can't wait until I can SAFELY get my little guy into riding. I can't imagine why by 6 he can't be cruising around. That gives me 5.5 years to get him prepped. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

 

Let me speak as a self-proclaimed authority on the Kasea (and other youth mini atv models). I research them, design parts for them, build them, MX race them, dune race them, drag race them, and sell them. I started building LT80's (HellT80's) years ago when that was the only youth size 4 wheeler on the planet. I also messed with the tooth rattling LT50. I knew the limitations of the products and went in search of something BETTER.

Finally, after years of supression by the Hippie "protect our kids from us crowd" we were blessed with a flood of new modern youth atvs. Unfortunately, many of the new atvs suffered from design flaws that nobody seemed interested in correcting. I actually held out hope for a name brand high end youth atv from Kawasaki -- until I saw their new 2003 youth atv ---- a snot green exact copy of the HellT80. That was my only hope outside of the Kasea as having any chance of being the best youth mini on the market. Could the Kasea be better? Yes. Is it the best available? Yes.

Through my race program, I keep Kasea up to date on areas that could be improved and also let them know about the competition. Kasea is NOT a "Asian" name. It is a name made up by American guys (Steve and Ken) in Washington State. They went to Tawian and had Standard Motors build their atv's to spec. Standard has been building the engines for other applications for many years. The engine is a licensed copy of an older very proven Yamaha design.

The guys here that talk about what they know about the youth atv market, what they claim is junk or good, is funny at best. Sure, any company can have a lemon in the bunch. What I have found is that it is usually the parents that take the youth mini (any brand) out and beat the Hell out of it and then scream that it is a POS. The mini was not intended to haul a 230 pound parent around the SX track or cross rivers like a Land Rover. The other thing I notice is the same parents parking their personal atv next to their bed -- washing and kissing it before they go to bed while the youth mini sits outside with no maintenance. I will say that many (well most) people do not understand how to maintain the youth mini. When they cannot figure it out, they start messing with things that are better left alone. Then when they have it good and messed up, they proclaim it to be a POS.

Let me know your thoughs. If you can tell me why your brand of youth mini is better than the Kasea, I want to hear it. If you just want to flame, start a new post and lets go at it but be prepared to back up your BS. I have done my research -- I know what I am talking about.

Kasea is the best looking and best performing youth atv on the market. Currently 50 and 90cc atv’s s are marketed by Suzuki (made by an Asian company NOT Suzuki), Kawasaki (Suzuki in Green plastic), Eton, Polairs (made by Aeon), Aeon (Alpha Sports), Sundiro, T-Rex (Transitional Outdoor Power Co. made by Dinli), Jehm, Kasea, Bombardier (made by Jehm), Husky, Xtreme Machine, Artic Cat, Yerf Dog, Manco, Dinli Helix (has an untested reverse feature), LEM and other manufacturers. Of the many atv manufacturers, Kasea offers features that go beyond the “other guys.” Virtually all of the youth atv’s are equipped with fully automatic CVT transmissions (except the Suzuki 50 and LEM 50) and a 2 stroke oil injected engine, the features that make Kasea superior to other youth atv’s begin here:

Front suspension
The Kasea front suspension is much stronger than that Eton, Polairs (Aeon), Aeon (Alpha Sports), Sundiro, T-Rex, Jehm, Bombardier, Husky, Blazer, Extreme Machine, Artic Cat, Yerf Dog, Manco, Dinli Helix, LEM and some other manufacturers. The Kasea uses a double clevis style knuckle holder rather than the more common single holder. We believe that only Suzuki LT80 uses the same strong design as Kasea on the front suspension a-arms. I have never seen a Kasea arm or spindle fail. I have seen the Alpha, Sundiro and Eton fail (note, all of the youth minis except the LT80 and Kasea use the same inferior design front a-arm.)

Rear suspension
The Kasea has the strongest youth atv rear swing arm and axle design on the market. It is a copy of the trusted design used by Yamaha on their performance atv’s since the early 1980’s. No other youth atv has this strong of a rear suspension – it is simply the best. Many of the other youth atv’s don’t even offer a true sport atv style rear axle. We have found most youth atv’s have a rear axle that is a thin metal shaft covered with tubing. Not only is the tube covered design weaker, it allows water to easily enter the carrier bearing area. Other youth atv’s such as the Suzuki LT-80, LT50 and one Eton atv model do not even use a traditional rear swing arm. The LT80 and the one Eton model made the engine and transmission serve as the rear swing arm. The Suzuki LT80 and Eton design causes handling problems and is very difficult to modify for increased performance. They are also prone to cracking the engine case when used in MX racing. On the older Polaris, T-Rex and a few other models, the rear swing arm, although slightly longer, is too weak to be considered adequate.

Shock absorbers
Kasea built their atv’s with true rebound and compression dampening Showa shocks that also feature compression preload spring adjusters. The only other youth atv that we have found that has a similar rear shock is Bombardier. Not even Suzuki has a good rear shock. This is a very important safety feature that is often overlooked. When the Kasea is ridden over a large sudden bump, the rebound dampening helps prevent the atv from “bucking” forward as the shock returns to its normal height. Correct compression dampening helps keep the shock from "packing" down.

Braking system
Kasea offers a traditional rear foot brake in addition to the front hand brake. This will allow your young rider to learn the proper use of hand and foot controls so he/she will be ready to advance to a full size atv with a manual clutch without relearning their riding technique. Some models such as the Blazer and Bombardier use full size levers that are hard for little hands to properly grip. The Suzuki 50 models do not even offer front brakes!! We will point out that the T-Rex, Manco, Sundiro and Yerf Dog have a rear disc brake but we feel that the drum brake in the youth market is sufficient for even racing needs. I actually have a Kasea with a rear disc that is being tested.

Optional lighting
We believe that only the Kasea is equipped with a 80+ watt lighting coil and is pre-wired for lighting from the factory. All you need to do is purchase the Kasea lighting set that is found as standard equipment on the Kasea 150 atv or simply mount your own lights to the existing wiring. The key switch uses a third position to turn on the lights. Kasea even pre wired for a rear safety light and lighting for your whip antenna. No other youth atv on the market has this much lighting capability. If you want to add lighting to the Suzuki LT80, you will need a special electrical stator and wiring at a substantial cost. LT80 lighting kits that run off the battery only will result in a dead battery and a long walk home. The Suzuki 50 models cannot accept lighting.

Starting
Kasea, like most other youth atv’s, offers electric starting with a manual back up kick starter and a fully automatic choke. Kasea studied the other atv’s and took the ease of starting one step further. They added an automatic fuel valve. When the engine starts, the fuel is automatically turned on. When the engine stops, the fuel is automatically shut off. In comparison, the Suzuki and LEM models have manual chokes and all other youth atv’s have manual fuel valves. We also note that if you want to add a manual back up starter to the Suzuki, it is a pull rope recoil starter that will cost an additional $80. In the unlikely event that you ever need a replacement electric starter for the Kasea, it will cost about $50 and can be installed in 5 minutes. The Suzuki starter costs about $250 and will require 3 hours of labor to complete the installation. The Suzuki 50 models only have pull rope starters that are difficult at best for young riders to operate.

Rim sizes
Here, you can easily install replacement rims of your choice! The front hubs use the common 4/110 bolt pattern (Honda/Yamaha Blaster) and the rear uses the common 4/100 bolt pattern (Blaster).

General Parts
Since most of the youth atv engines are similar, finding parts is usually not a problem. If you need gaskets, air filters, batteries, spark plugs, chain, tires or some basic engine components, Eton, Polairs, Aeon (Alpha Sports), Sundiro, T-Rex, Jehm, Kasea, Bombardier, Husky, Blazer, Extreme Machine, Artic Cat, Yerf Dog, Manco, Dinli Helix, will interchange. The Blazer, T-Rex, Bombardier, Yerf Dog, Manico and Polaris have a longer drive belt and side case cover though.

General Notes
The Kasea is one of the few youth atv’s that does not provide a full floor board for the youth rider’s feet. We have studied this issue and believe that the floorboard design may not be as good as claimed. In the event that the rider’s foot gets wet or the board gets wet or covered with debris, it becomes a slippery dangerous platform. I have seen a kid's foot slip off a floor board on a Jehm and suck the kid under the atv! Kasea uses foot pegs just like a traditional atv. To improve any youth atv, we suggest that a good nerf bar with foot pegs and narrow spaced nets be added. I offer nerf bar packages for most youth atv models.

Speed
Kasea voluntarily follows the maximum speed limit recommendations of the Consumer Products Safety Commission. You may find other brands of youth atv’s offered for sale that are out of the box “faster” than the Kasea; however, those atv’s most likely do not comply with the CPSC regulations. Kasea, Eton, Suzuki and a couple of other models run the 90cc atv with 82.5cc's of actual engine displacement. A couple of brands try to make it appear as if they have more power by using a 52mm instead of 50mm stock bore (Polaris for example). We have even seen a few brands in the USA that are 100cc's. We belive that the 100cc models are being brought here in violation of the CPSC rules. For a new rider, there is no need for the extra speed out of the box. When their skills improve, the Kasea platform is the one to build.

Performance
From an aftermarket standpoint, I have the performance modifications for your youth atv. As your child grows, so will his/her ability to control more power. Instead of placing your child on a larger atv that can be dangerous for a younger rider to properly control, modifying a youth atv will provide the challenge that your child desires. I have replacement large bore cylinders, ported cylinders, custom billet aluminum cylinder heads, special over range transmissions, custom exhaust systems, performance carburetors, performance reeds, lighting kits, ignition systems, extended swing arms, wider a-arms, shock absorber kits and various tire and rim options. A special 4130 alloy frame is also in the works! Good luck getting these parts for the HellT80 -- an engine that runs backward in contrast to every other engine in the youth mini market.

I can ship a Kasea 90 for under $4k that will smoke a Blaster, 300ex, 400ex, Warrior and many other full size atv's. In a 150' race with a 200 pound test rider on one of my mild race Kaseas I have beaten a Cannondale Speed and a Suzuki DRZ400. Don't believe me, I can put you in touch with the owners.

 

Yeah, Whut he said. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

Actually NICE to hear from someone with experience and knows a thing or two 'bout quads. This other garbage about "it's a piece of crap" is not even close.
There 250 is a very light twin cylinder. I wonder if they will make like a 440 V Twin of something that rocks. It'll be fuhn to watch.

Thanks for all of your effort Raptor720. You get an "A" this semester!