Ok, not exactly 50(I said close to). How bout 42-48 hp which is still a significant jump from the stock 37(aproximate). What I ws getting at was that the Z is fast for a 400 but not alot of room for improved hp without a big bore kit where with a Rap you can gain alot of extra power just from a few simple mods. Just depends on what ya want out of it

 

This has gone on way toooooooo long. The topic was Z and Raptor until Dales chimed in. Different quads!!!, different topic!!!. I like my Z, you like your Dale, the Raptor dudes like their Yammys. My choice was the Z. I'm sure if I had bought a Dale I would have liked it as well. America the Free, freedom of choice. Enough said, at least quad people are not a dying breed. We appear to be loud and strong ~~~~ let freedom ring!!!! LOA [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

Over and out, of yeah - peace out! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

 

Last time I checked it was a guy with a raptor that started the dale discussion.

 

<< Okay, then what about the Z400/Cannondale comparison in last month's issue? >>




LOL! It was a Raptor guy that brought up the Dale shootout....

Anyway, I could get along with Satan if he rode a quad. (I think he just bought a Z)[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] Bottom line is, Dirt Wheels is going ALITTLE overboard with the whole &quot;benchmark&quot; thing. And it pisses me off. People read this stuff! They look to Dirtwheels to point them in the right direction when purchasing a quad. And they have to just overexaggerate the rating of the Z alittle bit. I'm not saying it's not a good budget quad, it's just not for me.

And half of our time(us Dale owners) is spent defending our quad.

So there ya have it in a nutshell.....happy trails to you, Happy trails to you......and keep her rubber side down.

 

Only problem I see with the Dale is the closest dealer is 4 1/2 hours away. I may end up with one anyway when my son is old enough to start racing MX.

 

Zookyridr,
There is a dealer in Harrison,Ar. which is less than 2 hours from you.

 

<< Last time I checked it was a guy with a raptor that started the dale discussion. >>



Yeah, I just felt like pouring some gas on the fire. And it was a good way to dismiss DW as being just plain retarded in their comparisons.

 

<< budget quad >>





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jbomb, Thanks I'll have to run down and check them out. I can't figure out why Springfield doesn't have a dealer but if they did they would inflate the price like they do everything else. They still sell Raptors for 6499.00 around here.