700cc+ ATV owners
#31
Originally posted by: bwm87
With some of the thick mud I go through you need the extra cc's, my friend on a 450 honda could not even turn his tires while mine spun freely and I ended up having to pull him out.
With some of the thick mud I go through you need the extra cc's, my friend on a 450 honda could not even turn his tires while mine spun freely and I ended up having to pull him out.
#32
I'll say it again, each quad and their size are for certain purposes....I like the speed of the larger machines, the tow capacity, the rack capacity and the plow performance....
As far as mudding...the larger machines with more power and bigger tires work better....
as far as trail riding, tight, twisting turns, the smaller machines work better....
as far as technical, climbing, etc. all machines work well, the smaller displacement machines will climb almost anything the big ones will....there advantages and disadvantages to both....depending on the terrain....if a narrower wheelbase is better, the smaller machines you usually work better...ones that have a narrower wheelbase....other times trying to straddle washed out area's, the wider machines work better....although engine displacement doesn't make much of a difference here because even the smaller sized engines will climb almost anything in low gear....
But we all know one thing...we all have machines, we're going to have fun whether we have an 800 or a 250....we may do different things....but the good part is that we can get out and ride and have a great time....
As far as mudding...the larger machines with more power and bigger tires work better....
as far as trail riding, tight, twisting turns, the smaller machines work better....
as far as technical, climbing, etc. all machines work well, the smaller displacement machines will climb almost anything the big ones will....there advantages and disadvantages to both....depending on the terrain....if a narrower wheelbase is better, the smaller machines you usually work better...ones that have a narrower wheelbase....other times trying to straddle washed out area's, the wider machines work better....although engine displacement doesn't make much of a difference here because even the smaller sized engines will climb almost anything in low gear....
But we all know one thing...we all have machines, we're going to have fun whether we have an 800 or a 250....we may do different things....but the good part is that we can get out and ride and have a great time....
#33
Originally posted by: vtwinriot
I went with a big bore because I can use it to play, plow snow, skid extremely heavy logs, and embarass lesser quads with. J/K
That question is like asking why have a 500 hp viper. It is simple......... because we can.
I went with a big bore because I can use it to play, plow snow, skid extremely heavy logs, and embarass lesser quads with. J/K
That question is like asking why have a 500 hp viper. It is simple......... because we can.
#34
When I bought my machine this is what I looked for. (no specific order)
1 sporty machine with 4x4
2 good amount of ground clearance, with my tires I accomplished that
3 SRA
4 under 500 pounds
5 manual transmission (semiauto clutch)
6 price range was up to 5,600 at the time
7 overall comfortable feeling of the ride and handling
8 ability to modify
It was all of the above plus the custumer service and known reliability that made my decision on a wolverine. When it all comes down to it everyone has a riding style and certain preferences. I don't think that there is a "monster quad" out there that fits what I want. If someone uses there utility truely as a work quad, I guess I can understand going with something huge even though when I need a quad for work purposes my dads 500 HO does the trick without a problem. I guess I don't understand people buying monster utility quads just to go fast, you might as well buy a sport quad. Anything technically difficult comes down to the rider more than the quad anyways. This is just my opinion on the subject.
Ryan
PS On the subject of power, I drive a 300 HP car, I like lots of power too [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
1 sporty machine with 4x4
2 good amount of ground clearance, with my tires I accomplished that
3 SRA
4 under 500 pounds
5 manual transmission (semiauto clutch)
6 price range was up to 5,600 at the time
7 overall comfortable feeling of the ride and handling
8 ability to modify
It was all of the above plus the custumer service and known reliability that made my decision on a wolverine. When it all comes down to it everyone has a riding style and certain preferences. I don't think that there is a "monster quad" out there that fits what I want. If someone uses there utility truely as a work quad, I guess I can understand going with something huge even though when I need a quad for work purposes my dads 500 HO does the trick without a problem. I guess I don't understand people buying monster utility quads just to go fast, you might as well buy a sport quad. Anything technically difficult comes down to the rider more than the quad anyways. This is just my opinion on the subject.
Ryan
PS On the subject of power, I drive a 300 HP car, I like lots of power too [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
#35
there has never been a situation where my scrambler wont follow a sp700, or a prarie 650. if they get stuck, i do. they make it through, i do. my kodiak was almost the same, if only it had the diff locker. on hills no other machine could compare to it. no hill could really stop it thnx to the WARN bumper and a winch. you really dont need the 700cc class. i really wanted to get one, but now that i look at it, my 500 is MORE than enough power, and will go just the same places. its really amazing where the scramblers can climb...
the great part of the big bores is the power. dont ever ride one, you just may end up buying one. as for work, as hard as this is to believe, our old sp500 pulled more than our sp700. the 700 just spins out, where the 500 seemed to have more low torque, and it would pull anything. we used the sp500 to pull a John Deere 730. its a decent sized tractor. well the 700 wouldnt pull it.
overall, im not going to a big bore if i ever get another one.
the great part of the big bores is the power. dont ever ride one, you just may end up buying one. as for work, as hard as this is to believe, our old sp500 pulled more than our sp700. the 700 just spins out, where the 500 seemed to have more low torque, and it would pull anything. we used the sp500 to pull a John Deere 730. its a decent sized tractor. well the 700 wouldnt pull it.
overall, im not going to a big bore if i ever get another one.
#36
Originally posted by: Outrage
Do you MONSTER quad owners believe your quads can go more places than at 400 or 500cc class machine? Have you ever witnessed a friend that couldn't follow you because they didn't have the extra power of your quad? I have been riding for a long time and have never seen this.
Just a few years ago the largest quad out there was a 300cc and we all thought this quad could take us anywhere so why now do we all NEED these 700cc+ machines? I'm happy with my smaller Vinson and will only upgrade when this thing gives out on me.
I live in Alaska where fishing is a HUGE sport. I see these people come to the hole looking all pretty using only the most expensive gear. As I stand there with my 15 year old rod & reel enjoying life I am happy. When I reel my 25 pound King Salmon in I think to myself, it doesn't get any better than this.
Do you MONSTER quad owners believe your quads can go more places than at 400 or 500cc class machine? Have you ever witnessed a friend that couldn't follow you because they didn't have the extra power of your quad? I have been riding for a long time and have never seen this.
Just a few years ago the largest quad out there was a 300cc and we all thought this quad could take us anywhere so why now do we all NEED these 700cc+ machines? I'm happy with my smaller Vinson and will only upgrade when this thing gives out on me.
I live in Alaska where fishing is a HUGE sport. I see these people come to the hole looking all pretty using only the most expensive gear. As I stand there with my 15 year old rod & reel enjoying life I am happy. When I reel my 25 pound King Salmon in I think to myself, it doesn't get any better than this.
#37
Since I have small and large bore quads I will submit my 2 cents.
There is nothing worse then eating your buddies dust while you have your 360cc bike at WOT and your buddy is at 3/4 with his 500 poopoo. Having said this, to know that one's bike has the ability to tame the toughest trail/mud hole etc is worth it to me but I ride for pure fun so a 700cc quad is worth the extra bucks.
I bought the 360 first saying this is all I need but after I rode with bigger quads 500+ I needed/wanted (same thing) a bigger bike.
But since I can afford the larger quad why not, other wise we would all be driving Lada's or VW's Bugs just like in the 40's and 50's.
For the record my wife hates the 360 as she is addicted to raw power of our 700. If your wife wants more power then by all means grab your ***** and get the larger quad!! Just a statement its not meant to flame anyone owning smaller quads. LOL
There is nothing worse then eating your buddies dust while you have your 360cc bike at WOT and your buddy is at 3/4 with his 500 poopoo. Having said this, to know that one's bike has the ability to tame the toughest trail/mud hole etc is worth it to me but I ride for pure fun so a 700cc quad is worth the extra bucks.
I bought the 360 first saying this is all I need but after I rode with bigger quads 500+ I needed/wanted (same thing) a bigger bike.
But since I can afford the larger quad why not, other wise we would all be driving Lada's or VW's Bugs just like in the 40's and 50's.
For the record my wife hates the 360 as she is addicted to raw power of our 700. If your wife wants more power then by all means grab your ***** and get the larger quad!! Just a statement its not meant to flame anyone owning smaller quads. LOL
#38
Originally posted by: SaskKawiGuy
Since I have small and large bore quads I will submit my 2 cents.
There is nothing worse then eating your buddies dust while you have your 360cc bike at WOT and your buddy is at 3/4 with his 500 poopoo. Having said this, to know that one's bike has the ability to tame the toughest trail/mud hole etc is worth it to me but I ride for pure fun so a 700cc quad is worth the extra bucks.
I bought the 360 first saying this is all I need but after I rode with bigger quads 500+ I needed/wanted (same thing) a bigger bike.
But since I can afford the larger quad why not, other wise we would all be driving Lada's or VW's Bugs just like in the 40's and 50's.
For the record my wife hates the 360 as she is addicted to raw power of our 700. If your wife wants more power then by all means grab your ***** and get the larger quad!! Just a statement its not meant to flame anyone owning smaller quads. LOL
Since I have small and large bore quads I will submit my 2 cents.
There is nothing worse then eating your buddies dust while you have your 360cc bike at WOT and your buddy is at 3/4 with his 500 poopoo. Having said this, to know that one's bike has the ability to tame the toughest trail/mud hole etc is worth it to me but I ride for pure fun so a 700cc quad is worth the extra bucks.
I bought the 360 first saying this is all I need but after I rode with bigger quads 500+ I needed/wanted (same thing) a bigger bike.
But since I can afford the larger quad why not, other wise we would all be driving Lada's or VW's Bugs just like in the 40's and 50's.
For the record my wife hates the 360 as she is addicted to raw power of our 700. If your wife wants more power then by all means grab your ***** and get the larger quad!! Just a statement its not meant to flame anyone owning smaller quads. LOL
#39
Tdelong,
You are missing the point entirely. No one is calling you anything either so I don't like when you say these things either. There is nothing wrong with larger quads and that's not what the post is about at all. As far as money goes I'm sure everyone buys the best they can and that's not what this post is about either. There are people who buy things because they need them, there are people that buy things because they want them, and there are people that buy things just to keep up with the Jones and are never happy. Is there anything wrong with any of these? I would have to say no. I don't care what others ride as long as I'm happy with my ride but don't look down on me because my machine has less CCs than yours.
You are missing the point entirely. No one is calling you anything either so I don't like when you say these things either. There is nothing wrong with larger quads and that's not what the post is about at all. As far as money goes I'm sure everyone buys the best they can and that's not what this post is about either. There are people who buy things because they need them, there are people that buy things because they want them, and there are people that buy things just to keep up with the Jones and are never happy. Is there anything wrong with any of these? I would have to say no. I don't care what others ride as long as I'm happy with my ride but don't look down on me because my machine has less CCs than yours.
#40
For the most part anyone with 400-500 cc or more can do and go about the same.
I still find myself wanting more power, but not for a lack of it. I have been mudding with a few machines of the smaller cc variety that couldnt even spin the 27" mudders they had on in the thick stuff and would get stuck. Any time i've ever been stuck all 4 of my wheels are still spinning and throwing mudd, just that i'm holessly bottomed out.
In the wet sloppy stuff its different, i have been through up over the seat without a problem and i'm sure smaller machines have too.
There are also some extreem hill shooting and towing situations too.
I still find myself wanting more power, but not for a lack of it. I have been mudding with a few machines of the smaller cc variety that couldnt even spin the 27" mudders they had on in the thick stuff and would get stuck. Any time i've ever been stuck all 4 of my wheels are still spinning and throwing mudd, just that i'm holessly bottomed out.
In the wet sloppy stuff its different, i have been through up over the seat without a problem and i'm sure smaller machines have too.
There are also some extreem hill shooting and towing situations too.


