Like I said just another punk running his mouth.

If I had to guess you do not even own a quad.

 

Look Outrage, Suzuki's are fine, so are everyone else's quads, I myself want the best and i believe i have one of'm. But calling me a punk? and saying I dont own an atv, ha! but whatever, I do. I live in Alabama, and you live in Alaska, so we ride in diff places so we can't really compare, im no punk, i know my facts and i know what i own. I am not trying to rag on you or anything. I owned an '04 Mossy Oak Sportsman 500, same as the one i own now just smaller, well when i took it to the Polaris dealer for basic maintenance and left it over night someone stole it (along with some other quads). So i ended up getting a better deal on an '04 SP 700 (wont go into details). I can say that I felt a great difference in power between the two. But I believe with my upgrades to my 700 my quad is better than 95 % of the quads out there today. I ride at Enid Lake, MS. I'll have some Pictures for you soon, have a good night.

2004 Polaris Sportsman 700 Mossy Oak
'27 ITP 589 M/S
'2in. lift
K&N Air Filter
Warn 3000 lb. winch
DynoJet Jet kit
HMF Silent Core Muffler
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Rough around the edges...you would be right. I don't take kindly to people patronizing me. Opinions are one thing but come on. And from reading any of my previous posts you can tell I'm very open minded. Does it take a punk to know one...come on now.


JJJ,

Thanks for your last post. Yes your quad may be better than most besides look at those mods! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] I guess if you are a swamp rider then you are right, bigger is better. But I think most of us ride different trails. I too like riding the best but think team Suzuki is leading the way so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Like I said before when you're out on the trail having fun, the name on the side of your quad makes no difference.

 

Mr Outrage

I have been reading this thread and it kind of got me ticked to the point of having to respond. I will give you points for getting people involved with this site. You post an idea for a topic but then get upset when people respond to your coments. If you are happy with your quad then then give it a rest. I am a first time quad owner (2005 yellow King Quad) I did not buy it because it was the biggest quad Suzuki made. I bought it because of the features and because I work hard and wanted to reward myself with something I felt good about. I most likely wont need all the power it has, but once in a while I will feel like opening it up to get that rush of power. I cant afford a $250,000 sports car but I can afford a bigger quad and a bigger snowmobile. I kind of have a feeling you would like a 700 as well but you are having a hard time justifing one. Who cares what other people have. Be thankfull for what you have and loosen up a little. I also notice you have a case of the Suzuki only blues. I am sure the other companies make good products as well. Don't take this too personal but "Outrage" maybe not something to be proud of.

 

CocaCola,

I understand what you are saying but it's not true at all. Since you are new to this site I'll cut you a break. If you read any of my posts you would know that. I make more than enough money to get a 700cc+ machine and will probably own one sooner or later. Yes I lean toward Suzuki but I've owned many different quads can't say one is better than the other just better for some and their riding style. For the record I like Suzuki not because they are the biggest or most powerful because they are not. I like them because they are very sporty for a 4x4 and that suites my riding style. All quads have their goods and bads and if there was a clear winner then I'm sure we would all own the same one and how much fun would that be? I did write this post wanting peoples opinions but it wasn't meant for quad bashing and that's what some try to make it out to be. This post has nothing to do with buying a 700cc+ machine at all. The question is: Can a 700cc+ machine go more places than a smaller quad? This is the debate not quad bashing. I wish we could just get through one post without all this stuff.

 

the larger CC machines really dont weigh more then 50 or so pounds over small motored machines so theres really nothing to be said about larger CC's. its the frame, polaris' are heavy a$$ quads by nature because of 1. there made in the US. 2. there a US quad. 3. you cant break them. I understand when you say that all the polaris' that ride with you have nothing but problems, but there is alwase going to be a few out of the manufacturer that arnt up to par with other machines. me, i have 2 polaris' and one has over 4000 miles on it and has never broke exept for a bolt on the steering. I also belive that you should cool down too as your starting to get angry when people make the notion that your quad is weak. i do belive JJJJJ shouldent post as hes in the process of lineing him self up for an a$$ kicking, along with he makes good polaris owners look bad. I do belive that my quad can go to the same places and more then a smaller CC quad because of the engine power. the real only way you can compair on which quad can go to the same place would to compair the same brand. so your bassicly only able to compair a Sportsman 400 to a Sportsman 700 or 800.

now i can say without a doubt that my machine will go higher up in elevation then yours can without stopping other than to refuel [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] so, EFI only comes on big bores, something to look into [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

 

Spyder6,

Great post and that's what I was trying to get out of people when I posted this. Having EFI is one reason I may end up getting another quad as you are right about the elavation. So far so good though with the mountains here in Alaska, no problems but it should help with the cold weather. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

As for the weight issue I would disagree. As I said before there's nothing wrong with Polaris but they weigh almost 150 pounds more than most their size. But as for the reason why they weigh more you may be right (stronger/bigger frames). Like I said most of the people I ride with have them and love them so there must me something they like about them. One thing I like about them is the very comfortable ride.

May I ask about why you think we can only compare different size quads of the same brand? If we're buying a quad to go places then it shouldn't matter what brand it is right? I agree that a larger quad will go more places than smaller ones because of the extra CCs and higher ground clearance. This can be seen mostly in deep snow and sticky mud but IMO not so much on the trail. We all say this including me but I'm asking for experiences because my friends and I ride some rough stuff and the 350cc machines seem to keep up with the rest of us.

 

are u kidding me? after going from my kodiak to my dads sp700, it felt like a slug when it came to maneuverability. i also rode a sp500, same thing. theyre extremely heavy on the trails.


heh, u wanna bet? i toasted a sp500's front suspension in 1200 miles.


personally i dont think ill go past a 500 for a while.

 

im just saying that the only real way you can say that a larger quad can go to more places then a smaller CC'd quad would to compair the same line of frames and everything. as different frames and stock tires handle different terrains differenlty along with there different patterns say in the snow, the new 05 polaris' should float better on the snow then the previous models because of their larger tires and 1 1/2 inch wider width.

if you can understand were im getting at, no doubt a lighter quad will float better on snow then a heavy quad, they may have the same CC's or the lighter quad may have lower CC's so the only real way you can say that a smaller CC quad can go the same places a larger CC quad can would have to compair directly the same machine exept with different engines. so your basicly going to compair (im not saying all the time, im just using this as an example because the sportsman line has only different engines) a Sportsman 400 to a Sportsman 800.

now since their on the same frame, give the same tracking, and have the same stock tires and everything, you can compair these effectively. since your not going to see any varying performance on different weather conditions between the 2 since there on the same platform, a accurate measurement of how well smaller CC's agaisnt Larger CC's can perform. now this being said, a small CC engine will be able to follow a big bore 95% of all the places it goes, exept that it will have to work twice to 3 times as hard as the big bore with having less power to get there, there for causing its life to drop and its maintnance time to soar.

the few places were i think that a big bore will go were a small bore wouldent would be deep mud and water, steep hills, and dunes. weve all read storys were the small bore quads wernt able to make it up the sand hill because they started bogging down, and were little jimmys scrambler sunk when his big bros griz 660 went buy in the mud.

just trying to put everything in perspective easly

 

Yeah, im not doing anymore trash talking, im sticking to the subject. I've rode with many quads, and in most cases no, a bigger quad (700CC+) is no better than a 500 SP or Vinson or Rubicon or Kodiak etc... But there was those times if you had some of those key features or that extra power of cc's and u could make it out.. Yes Polaris's are heavy and Spyder, didnt mean to make you feel bad about owning a Polaris but w/e.. I know they're heavy but I think it dosent make that much of a difference (where i ride).. i own a rancher so i know the weight difference ..but i ride often so i dont really feel all that extra weight when im on mine. Outrage, yes i ride in deep mud and water, not up hills or in snow.... cause it dosent snow down here.. but yeah im a swamp rider. Anywho i've worked my a$$ off getting these mods for my quad and im extremely pleased with how well it performs in all areas.... And just for the record i wasnt trying to brag about my quad saying its better im just in love with it.. and if you thought i was bragging , im sorry.... well...... ride on

2004 Polaris Sportsman 700
'27 ITP 589 M/S
'2in. lift
K&N Air Filter
Warn 3000 lb. winch
DynoJet Jet kit
HMF Silent Core Muffler