Griz 660 or Outty 800
#12
05-28-2006, 06:04 PM
Griz 660 or Outty 800
I'm waiting for someone to say the visco lock loves rock crawling so i can complete this thread.
The visco lock causes loss of momentum which can lead to getting stuck... it is just like a honda until after a few tire revolutions it locks up. The grizz would already be locked in because anybody can see difficult terrain up ahead for the most part.
The visco lock causes loss of momentum which can lead to getting stuck... it is just like a honda until after a few tire revolutions it locks up. The grizz would already be locked in because anybody can see difficult terrain up ahead for the most part.
#13
05-28-2006, 06:05 PM
Griz 660 or Outty 800
Originally posted by: v2rider
Actually, I am another person who dislikes visco, only because i can lock mine in all 4 and not have it pop out of 4x4 because the quad feels its time. And the beating the grizz through the snow? I dont know how that is. Power means nothing in snow. Its all ground clearance, and tires.
Actually, I am another person who dislikes visco, only because i can lock mine in all 4 and not have it pop out of 4x4 because the quad feels its time. And the beating the grizz through the snow? I dont know how that is. Power means nothing in snow. Its all ground clearance, and tires.
But to me, either way you slice it you'll always find a place for more power...cuz there's no such thing as too much power in big utes cuz their never fast enough for me!!! But I'm sure I'd be happy with an 800cc V-twin...until someone else comes out with a 900cc!!!
#14
05-29-2006, 09:23 AM
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Western mountains of Maine
Posts: 180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Griz 660 or Outty 800
Well, I don't really need the fastest quad on the block, just alot of power to carry
my tired old body up over rocks and mountain sides hunting etc. I really don't
see alot of other atvers here in rural Maine. I have an old Honda 300 I have
been riding for 15 years, and have told the wife I want a new machine this year.
She is all for it as she has seen the use I have gotten out of it as well as the
work it has done snowplowing etc. I rode the Outty 800 max xt in Greenville
maine for a lil bit, and thought it was good. I have not ridden a Griz or even
seen one being ridden by anyone. I know they are out there and both the
griz and outty are good machines. If Yamaha comes out with a 2up and efi
I will be tempted hard. Well I guess we will see come the middle of June.
[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img]
my tired old body up over rocks and mountain sides hunting etc. I really don't
see alot of other atvers here in rural Maine. I have an old Honda 300 I have
been riding for 15 years, and have told the wife I want a new machine this year.
She is all for it as she has seen the use I have gotten out of it as well as the
work it has done snowplowing etc. I rode the Outty 800 max xt in Greenville
maine for a lil bit, and thought it was good. I have not ridden a Griz or even
seen one being ridden by anyone. I know they are out there and both the
griz and outty are good machines. If Yamaha comes out with a 2up and efi
I will be tempted hard. Well I guess we will see come the middle of June.
[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img]
#15
05-29-2006, 01:48 PM
Pro Rider
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Ulster County, NY
Posts: 300
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Griz 660 or Outty 800
if you are used to a 300 honda, than any machine is going to be a big power jump, no offense or anything
my fathers grizz is a huge power jump from my kodi 450
i think a grizz is fine for you, not everyone needs or can handle the fastest quad out there
if you want a 2 up atv, look at the arctic cats, they are also good quads, not blazing fast like everyone seems to want nowadays though
good luck, 450kodman
my fathers grizz is a huge power jump from my kodi 450
i think a grizz is fine for you, not everyone needs or can handle the fastest quad out there
if you want a 2 up atv, look at the arctic cats, they are also good quads, not blazing fast like everyone seems to want nowadays though
good luck, 450kodman
#16
05-29-2006, 02:03 PM
Griz 660 or Outty 800
Yeah since your coming from an old 300 the Grizzly would probably be enough power for you.. But just curious as to why you haven't mentioned the King Quad 700..It's about the same price as the Grizz with more power and EFI, really a more refined machine from my experiences with both.
While I'm sure the Arctic Cat brand is good, if I'm not mistaking they only make a 500cc 2 up ATV, which IS NOT enough power IMO for the weight of two regular sized adults. It's definitly a strain on the engine b/c on my old 400cc I'd ride two up occasional and it was definitely hard on the engine. Just my observation over the years of riding with two people. You really need at least 650cc for a 2 up to be a worthwhile purchase.
While I'm sure the Arctic Cat brand is good, if I'm not mistaking they only make a 500cc 2 up ATV, which IS NOT enough power IMO for the weight of two regular sized adults. It's definitly a strain on the engine b/c on my old 400cc I'd ride two up occasional and it was definitely hard on the engine. Just my observation over the years of riding with two people. You really need at least 650cc for a 2 up to be a worthwhile purchase.
#18
05-29-2006, 03:27 PM
Griz 660 or Outty 800
Well I can't say I'm blinded by power as my Outlander 400 Max will go anywhere my friends Grizz will go, and thats with two people on the Outlander. From experience, Visco loc is much better than any locker 99% of the time, as there is no need to stop to lock it up -- because by that time you are stuck anyway. You have no idea how well this system works, especially in snow and mud because if you are spinning, you are locked up. This happens almost instantly and no stopping, shifting, no speed limiter(Grizz) and no heavy steering.
As for ground clearance there is very little or no differance between the two, even my '06 400 has 11.25 in the back and 10.5 in the front. But the nice thing with the Outlander is that the frame is very narrow so there is less for it to get hung up on. I have driven both of these machines in all types of terrain and the Outlander is the better machine, you can't even the 650 or 800 to the Grizz as they are in another league.
Sorry for the rant, but I find it very annoying when people just blurt out some opinion without knowing the facts or have personal experince on the subject.
As for ground clearance there is very little or no differance between the two, even my '06 400 has 11.25 in the back and 10.5 in the front. But the nice thing with the Outlander is that the frame is very narrow so there is less for it to get hung up on. I have driven both of these machines in all types of terrain and the Outlander is the better machine, you can't even the 650 or 800 to the Grizz as they are in another league.
Sorry for the rant, but I find it very annoying when people just blurt out some opinion without knowing the facts or have personal experince on the subject.
#19
05-29-2006, 03:43 PM
Griz 660 or Outty 800
Originally posted by: balgonieman
Well I can't say I'm blinded by power as my Outlander 400 Max will go anywhere my friends Grizz will go, and thats with two people on the Outlander. From experience, Visco loc is much better than any locker 99% of the time, as there is no need to stop to lock it up -- because by that time you are stuck anyway. You have no idea how well this system works, especially in snow and mud because if you are spinning, you are locked up. This happens almost instantly and no stopping, shifting, no speed limiter(Grizz) and no heavy steering.
As for ground clearance there is very little or no differance between the two, even my '06 400 has 11.25 in the back and 10.5 in the front. But the nice thing with the Outlander is that the frame is very narrow so there is less for it to get hung up on. I have driven both of these machines in all types of terrain and the Outlander is the better machine, you can't even the 650 or 800 to the Grizz as they are in another league.
Sorry for the rant, but I find it very annoying when people just blurt out some opinion without knowing the facts or have personal experince on the subject.
Well I can't say I'm blinded by power as my Outlander 400 Max will go anywhere my friends Grizz will go, and thats with two people on the Outlander. From experience, Visco loc is much better than any locker 99% of the time, as there is no need to stop to lock it up -- because by that time you are stuck anyway. You have no idea how well this system works, especially in snow and mud because if you are spinning, you are locked up. This happens almost instantly and no stopping, shifting, no speed limiter(Grizz) and no heavy steering.
As for ground clearance there is very little or no differance between the two, even my '06 400 has 11.25 in the back and 10.5 in the front. But the nice thing with the Outlander is that the frame is very narrow so there is less for it to get hung up on. I have driven both of these machines in all types of terrain and the Outlander is the better machine, you can't even the 650 or 800 to the Grizz as they are in another league.
Sorry for the rant, but I find it very annoying when people just blurt out some opinion without knowing the facts or have personal experince on the subject.
#20
05-29-2006, 03:55 PM
Griz 660 or Outty 800
Its not enough, and personally, i hate visco type lockers, like Bom, and polaris have(awd). Its not correct to say "99% of the time, visco is better" because its not. And im sure alot of different riders will chime in soon and this will become a heated debate! But i would rather choose when its time to lock it in, instead of the quad making that decision for me.