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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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Ok so maybe a sport bike wont make it thru deep mud. Most people quit playing in the mud after theyre 12. And If your buddy grew some *****, you all would not need to be stoping and helping him out.
Most people stop playing with training wheels when they are kids too, what happened to you??
Hu hu hu hu aint you a smart cookie. Your daddy with his sixth grade education teach you that retarded come back????
My grandfather had only a sixth grade education and had to work to feed his family. Do you have a problem with this? Should people only be allowed to post on this site if they graduated high school? What are you saying??
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 01:20 PM
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I wouldnt even dream of goin through many of the mudholes i see 4x4's go through! Put a snokel kit on a 4x4 and the right tires, and they all almost unstoppable
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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Mud and water are hard on a bike. If you plan to keep your bike for some time then avoid the wet enviroment. Boats are for the water. I know, everyone is already saying, but what if you have to cross a creek? Then yes you do have to go thru water, but you dont have to go the the deepest hole you can find.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by: jrpowersports
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Ok so maybe a sport bike wont make it thru deep mud. Most people quit playing in the mud after theyre 12. And If your buddy grew some *****, you all would not need to be stoping and helping him out.
Most people stop playing with training wheels when they are kids too, what happened to you??
Hu hu hu hu aint you a smart cookie. Your daddy with his sixth grade education teach you that retarded come back????
No, but when you were in sixth grade, i tought your mommy some cool things.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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jrpowersports is on a week long vacation, we won't hear from him for a while, if ever.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by: bluedino
Mud and water are hard on a bike. If you plan to keep your bike for some time then avoid the wet enviroment. Boats are for the water. I know, everyone is already saying, but what if you have to cross a creek? Then yes you do have to go thru water, but you dont have to go the the deepest hole you can find.

"dont have to go through the deepest hole you find"

I do!!!!!!! I know i shouldnt, but i cant help it!!
 
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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Haha. It Happens to all of us sometimes.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 11:43 PM
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Originally posted by: rfcom
Hello,

I have a site I must access up a 900' slope. The terrain is very rough and rocky, with boulder straddling and loose terrain, as well as very high angles of attack. I have little knowledge of ATV's and went to the Honda shop last week and bought a slightly used 05' Honda Rincon 650. It had the highest ground clearance of the Honda Utility class and 4 wheel independant suspension, with the Hydra-Stat automatic.

After purchasing, I realized the 3 speed ATV is geared pretty high, and offers almost no engine braking at low speeds. This is a problem when on steep slopes. I checked out the Rubicon with the 5 speed transmission and the low range setting, and it was a doll. Worked great on slopes, but one problem- not available with independant rear suspension and 2.5 inches lower ground clearance. It seems Honda does not make a machine that has everything I need.

I am soliciting advice on other makes/ models that offer ALL of these features:

4 Wheel Drive/Braking
Watercooled
Low range setting for automatic transmission or transfercase
Independant 4-wheel suspension
10 inches of ground clearance or more.
Strong charging system for heavy winch use


Please include all positive AND negative aspects of models you are familiar with. ****No brand bashing PLEASE****


Thank You!
For what you describe i would not look at a four wheeler with out a true locker. The only brands that offer this are yamaha, kawasaki, polaris(with a little catch), suzuki, and arctic cat.

I would highly recommend the kawasaki 650i as it has everything you need at an excellent price but there are also other four wheelers that have what you need... i'd go test drive some before i bought any to see what you liked best...


 
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by: rfcom
Hello,

I have a site I must access up a 900' slope. The terrain is very rough and rocky, with boulder straddling and loose terrain, as well as very high angles of attack. I have little knowledge of ATV's and went to the Honda shop last week and bought a slightly used 05' Honda Rincon 650. It had the highest ground clearance of the Honda Utility class and 4 wheel independant suspension, with the Hydra-Stat automatic.

After purchasing, I realized the 3 speed ATV is geared pretty high, and offers almost no engine braking at low speeds. This is a problem when on steep slopes. I checked out the Rubicon with the 5 speed transmission and the low range setting, and it was a doll. Worked great on slopes, but one problem- not available with independant rear suspension and 2.5 inches lower ground clearance. It seems Honda does not make a machine that has everything I need.

I am soliciting advice on other makes/ models that offer ALL of these features:

4 Wheel Drive/Braking
Watercooled
Low range setting for automatic transmission or transfercase
Independant 4-wheel suspension
10 inches of ground clearance or more.
Strong charging system for heavy winch use


Please include all positive AND negative aspects of models you are familiar with. ****No brand bashing PLEASE****


Thank You!
For what you describe i wouldn't buy a four wheeler that didn't have a true locker... it would just flat out be scarey. Every brand offers one except for honda which has no form of locking and bombardier which has the visco lock which requires wheel spin to lock up and is scarey on steep and rocky surfaces.

I'd highly recommend the 650i from kawasaki because its priced extremely competitive and has everything you listed and then some. Personally i'd go test drive some from other brands and see what i liked best... because suzuki, kawasaki, arctic cat, and polaris all have what you want in a four wheeler but they all differ in many ways.

 
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 04:02 AM
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What people who don't have real experience with a bomb's visco- loc fail to tell you is that the visco-loc is a traction control system it locks PROGRESSIVELY and within a SPLIT SECOND. This allows you to steer easier than any other lockers, has no speed limitations, doesn't need to hold any levers in to be fully locked (Kawi & Cat) can be left in 4 wheel drive all the time and most important when doing extreme side hilling (off camber turning while climbing) it will not slide down toward the lower side (losing traction) like other lockers. This is very noticeable when on very slippery mud or on ice.

We have had many situations where the only machines to make it to the top regardless of drivers were visco-lock Bombs and some even had the same tires on (ITP ATR's). Different riders same results every time. Try a test yourself either on ice, greasy mud, loose rocks or gravel to verify this (we have). Place them all in lock up on an extreme side hill and try to turn uphill; you will clearly see the Outlanders will not slide nearly as easy to the lower side like the others. While you are at it try a tip over test on a side hill, again the Outlanders will be the most planted followed closely by Rincon's and King Quads. Polaris, Brutes and Cat's were easier to tip over than the others.

These are real world results from a large group of racers and riders from my two-dealer friend’s inventories and our personal machines.

All machines are good it just matters how extreme you want to go.
 
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