Thanks desertviper I still am not going to get my machine back for a week or two, I definitley didn't get what I wanted new motor, money back, new one, etc. but this is how they operate. And yes I never said they weren't going to flush it, but last tme I checked motors have a lot of areas for metal shavings to hold up in, and just replacing the top end ain't a 100%. (IN FACT THE MECHANIC TOLD ME TO CHANGE THE OIL IN IT AFTER EACH TANK OF GAS AT LEAST TWICE!) I think I might have run into some people on here, that are on Kawa payroll! You will see were I am open to the fact that every MANUFACTURE kawa, honda, etc, has built it's share of lemons. I was just pissed at Kawa for the way they handled it, basically pissed becuase, for the haters again, I now have a machine that has a major engine overhaul that I've ridden 8miles or so! I think everyone would do a little bashing!

 

Hello.

Call it a local or even a Canadian way of doing things.

When some one get's a new machine they usualy get some one to follow them to see if the new machine works.

If something starts to go wrong the follow rider stops the person on the new machine before anything get's worse.

Some even use video cameras, rarely though

Call it paranoid, or just common sense that up here in the north if you get stuck , help is very far away.

I supose you can say we have "lemon paranoia". Well better safe than sorry.

I have two kawa bayous and love them. I was intendding to buy a BF. However the FD lockers were/are faulty, reverse gear needs work as well.

As for your bf's motor head blowing you could also have had water in your fuel. However I believe you had contamination in the cooling system, blocking the oil flow. The kawas bayous do this as well.

It could have been residual metal, or a bad oil filter. Foriegn particles ended up stalling the valves or preventing the valves from closing properly.

Bad oil (it happens), sludge of another kind..

Best of luck.

 

Why do you say the FD locker /were.are faulty? My 700prairie, my BF750 and my brothers 360 prairie FD lockers have always worked. I have never heard of that before.

 

Been watching this thread here and in the Kawi forum. Not much interested in joining the pissing contest but do have a story to tell about Kawi repair to a new Prairie.

When I bought my 360 I broke it in right and added a couple of oil changes to the break in period. When the quad had about 10 hours on it the engine seized up. Called the dealership and set up an appointment to take it in. They would have taken it right away but I was busy and took it in about a week later. On arrival at the dealership, RMC in Renton, Washington, the service manager took the information of what had happened and the quad was put in the shop. They told me it could take a couple of weeks to get it back. This was on a Tuesday as I recall. The next Monday the service manager called to tell me one of the main bearings had frozen to the crank. She advised the factory would stand behind the repairs and that a few engines had had this problem. The next week the quad was ready to be picked up. Took me another week to pick up the machine and the mechanic that had worked on it showed me the damaged parts. They had replace the entire bottom end of the engine and he advised me to go thru the break in routine again. I did this and have had no further problems with the machine. We use this quad on the farm a lot and it has had the tar worked out of it with a blade and bucket and a pull behind mower. I have done some sport riding and really enjoy the way the machine handles even difficult, by my standards at least, trails.

The point of this is that Kawasaki, like most major manufacturers, will stand behind their products. Dealerships are a chance draw. Since the manufacturers do not pay full rate for warrantee work the dealerships often attempt to do the work on the customers money. In my case I found a very good dealership and because of this we have purchased several more machines for use on the farm.

Any dealership will be hard to get along with if you do not take the time to listen to what they have to say about what the manufacturer will or will not do in the way of repair work. My first thought when the engine failed in the 360 was "new engine" but Kawi does not do that. What they did was acceptable and turned out well. By dealing with them straight up and giving them the time they needed to do the repairs without making a big deal of it I was treated with courtesy and in a timely manner.

Prior to buying the 360 at this dealership I hung around the place for a few hours and talked to some of the people that were having repair work done or were picking their machines up. Talked to them about the service before and after the sale. I also looked at several other dealerships and compared prices and looked at their shops and the way the dealership was kept up. The condition of a shop will tell a lot about the quality of the mechanics working in it and the quality of the work they will be able to do. RMC's shop was clean and well equipped. They were also one of the few dealerships that were really willing to show me their shop.

I paid a few hundred dollars more than I could have gotten the quad for elsewhere but believe it was well worth the price.

Just what happened to me, take from it what you will.

 

id love to have a locker but i will take dependabilaty any day![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] but i saw a silver bf and it looked sweet! just that i would be pissed if this happened to me.

 

my'06 brute has 900 miles of the most difficult trails i can find, and the last time it was at the dealers was when i bought it.

 

Why are you Kawi owners sticking up for Kawasaki so much?? If someone came on the Suzuki forum and said this happened to their King I'd show sympathy instead of anger.

He has a right to be mad IMO b/c if this happened to me after 1 hr and the dealership/Kawasaki didn't replace the motor or buy it back that just wouldn't be right...if they want to charge that much for their ATV, then they should be willing to do whatever you want them to do out of kindness for your business...b/c 1 hour of riding is NOTHING that's still practically brandnew.

Every brand has their lemons true, but a motor needing a rebuild after an hour is beyond a lemon. This makes me rethink Kawasaki a bit b/c someone else said this happened to them as well earlier in this thread.

 

Man I would hate to think this is what america is coming to! When we settle for a foriegn company coming over here, and buying there products and people want to stick up for them, cause there creaming over paying a ton of money, for a product that they sell us, cuase were worried about a label. If my experience was 1 of 1000 I'ts 1 and this company manufactures locomotives, etc.? If this is all they think of us as a consumer than 1 of 1000 should'nt be a big deal to them. (to do more)One thing I've learned form hearing all the posts here, I am not willing to lay down as much, think god for people like me who think this kind of service sucks, or who knows were we are headed,(Canada), My god could you think of okay let's break out the camcorder, and record the first 10miles to make sure we don't have a lemon??????(as posted earlier the OLD CANADIAN WAYS OF DOING THINGS?????'what the?????) I hope with all of my heart I end up with a great atv and I'm ranting about how great it is and creaming in my shorts, like the rest of the haters but damn man, The only reason I'm telling ya'll all this cuase it could happen to you, and I'm still getting slamed.(your losing your sympathetic audience?????) I called your bluff gave you the places of all the people and names I'm dealing with and ya'll are still defending, I guess my level of what service is, and yours are different to the haters.

 

I completely agree with what RO has to say. If anyone on here knows me, they know i stick up for Polaris. I had alot of posts on my other name (JJonJon).. But anyway, like toyeboy said, no matter what brand, if this happens to anyone they have a right to rant on about anything they want to. Man, i may have handled your situation in a slightly different manner, but for the most part, i would've done what you did. And i would have been one pi$$ed mother f'er if this happend to me. Kawi guys this is not one of the type of posts to stick up for Kawi and try and be brand loyal. I mean, my god, its common sense to know that every brand, now a'days especially, makes good quads, and we all know theres plenty of people that have never had a problem out of their quads, like me (Polaris 700) but when something like this happens, he/she has a right to be pi$$ed.

RO.. I feel for you man. However, i think you need to take that chance on trying to get a lawyer.. Unless something else has already happend for you. It may work, and i think its the best chance you got. Anyway, i hope you get your money, and a good dependable quad back. Good luck with all your troubles..

I would share how my '04 Sportsman 500 Mossy Oak got "stolen" at the dealer, and they werent going to do anything about it lol... But i "MADE" sure everything went the way it was supposed to about that. And all went well....

 

You are wrong! I will stick up for what I have experienced with my kawies. A bf750, prairie700, prairie360, and kawie 3000 mule (1998 model) and none of them have had any problems other than changing out the muffler on the mule, which after 7 years of use, that is to be expected. I think the point you guys are missing is when he started this thread, he attacked kawie and all bf quads by saying, "The brute force LEMON!!!!!!!" and other statements instead of being angry at the dealer. Yes it is a big hassel when a new quad has problems, but based on all he has said, it is his local dealer. And we all know that kawie doesn't own dealers, they give the dealers the right to sell their product. The dealer can be a butt head or not, but it is the dealers choice to do so. Why not start the thread like, "BF problems - dealer sucks?" That way, we know he is not attacking kawie, but the dealer.

And, as far as backing "american", polaris is in partnership with TMK and several of polaris motors are fugi, which is Japaneese. So, don't start with that cr4p. There is nothing now days that you can buy that is trully american. We are now a vegatable soup of companies that are all intertwined together. And, why should I try to be faithfull to a company when they all souly out to protect the share holders money and make as much as possible? Let me see, I'm a chemist for a research lab for SHELL and we now have all our computer support in India. That is b/c SHELL wanted to save more money, and thus took the jobs away from americans. It didn't matter if you bought SHELL gasoline or not, they would still do it. I am not loyal to any brand, but I will put my hard earned money to the company with the best quality at the lowest price. B/C you see, ultimately in the end, we are all on our own. You might think today you have a great job, but tomorrow that american company moves overseas to make a bigger profit, thus laying you off. Be loyal....go a head, but this country changed not b/c consumers wanted forgien products, but b/c of free trade and american companies becoming more greedy that they go at all cost to get their money, no matter if we are loyal to them.