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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by: MotoF150
OK you guys that own a belt drive never said anything about how the belt slipps when it gets wet, lets not kid ourselves, you know and I know that plastic belt cover isn't waterproof and the ones that are waterproof they are still vented and water enters thru the vent, everybody builds ATV's with belt drives to keep the cost down when buying a new one, and to make money selling belts. Im talking about running ATVs in extreme and abusive conditions like going thru seat high water, engine deep mud, vertical hills and over downed trees. if you don't ride ur ATV thru these conditions on dry, level ground a belt drive will work. Everytime im out I always run into a guy that owns a belt drive with belt slipping problems, I have seen the smoke and smelled the rubber burning from a slipping belt drive, I have seen guys that run a belt drive that chicken out a rough trail cause they know their belt drive won't make make it, Im not cutting down a belt drive, its just I would never own one, and im kinda worried cause more and more models are changing from gear to belt drive, when ATVs first came out all were gear drives.
If you were to go in water that deep with a belt driven atv, all you have to is snorkel it and make sure your housing seal is good...it's as simple as that. The ones you've seen weren't snorkeled...so that's the owners fault that he went over the limits of his ATV...a belt driven atv isn't going to be able to go into water over the air intake of his tranny unless it's snorkeled. You can't really blame the manufacturers either b/c MOST guys (me included) don't submerge their $7k ATV in water, so if you do something out of the ordinary on your ATV then you have to modify it b/c the factory isn't going to recommend you go up to the seat in water.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 01:13 AM
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Originally posted by: MotoF150
OK you guys that own a belt drive never said anything about how the belt slipps when it gets wet, lets not kid ourselves, you know and I know that plastic belt cover isn't waterproof and the ones that are waterproof they are still vented and water enters thru the vent, everybody builds ATV's with belt drives to keep the cost down when buying a new one, and to make money selling belts. Im talking about running ATVs in extreme and abusive conditions like going thru seat high water, engine deep mud, vertical hills and over downed trees. if you don't ride ur ATV thru these conditions on dry, level ground a belt drive will work. Everytime im out I always run into a guy that owns a belt drive with belt slipping problems, I have seen the smoke and smelled the rubber burning from a slipping belt drive, I have seen guys that run a belt drive that chicken out a rough trail cause they know their belt drive won't make make it, Im not cutting down a belt drive, its just I would never own one, and im kinda worried cause more and more models are changing from gear to belt drive, when ATVs first came out all were gear drives.
I've ridden my belt driven quad through these conditions. Still works fine. The belt housing on my Grizzly is vented through the snorkel. If I fill the snorkel with water, chances are I have bigger worries than my belt drive.

 
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 06:26 AM
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Over the years there have been improvements to the belt drives, I have only seen certain models and brands of ATV's that experience belt slipping problems, every weeekend I attend ATV Poker Run's where there are between 600 to 1200 ATV's that get together, and on every poker run there is a big water hole, mud hole, vertical hill climb and these certain brand of ATV's with their belt drives come up short, everytime they go thru a deep water hole they have belt slipping problems, they have to be towed thru the rest of the course, even the people that operate these poker runs are forced to install a bypass trail that goes around the water and mud holes, why should these certain brand of ATV's recieve special treatment? The owners of these certain brand of ATV's are embarressed and ashamed and are laughed at, and after what I have seen I would never own one.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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The only belt driven quad ive seen have that problem is the 2005 Yamaha Wolverine. But even then, it takes 5 minutes to pull a plug from the belt housing, rev her up a couple minutes, and drain the water, and away it goes
 
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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I'm not sure why he thinks steep hillclimbs are a disadvantage for a CVT transmission. Most people I see with manual transmissions tend to either stall out on the hill or flip the thing backwards during a climb because they're in the wrong gear.

I'm also not going to argue the fact that it's possible to get water in the transmission belt case. This is certainly possible anytime the quad is driven in water deep enough to go over the handlebars. But then maybe I should consider a Sea Doo if I'm going to constantly be driving in that condition.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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did you hear abut dinli?
they have the best atv you can see the website is www.shiromika.com. the have same modles check it up
 
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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check this website www.shiromuka.com !
the have the best ATV in town
 
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 03:53 AM
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i dont know about the other brands but if i take on a little water through my cvt vents all i have to do is either drive easy on it for a little bit and let the fresh air clear it back out or sit for about 5 min and good to go. i can see if you do sink your bike up to the bottom of the seat i see the problem. on the outty i do believe the rear vent causes the most problems being the front sucks from around the air cleaner cover( formerly known as a tank cover to sport bikes).
 
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by: MotoF150
Any gear drive utility atv is the best, there are only 3 gear drive ATV's that I know of, The Yamaha Big Bear, the Suzuki Eiger Manual, and the Suzuki Vinson Manual. Sorry, but I don't mean to offend anybody but any belt drive ATV is a POS. I have seen the problems and the trouble the belt drives have and I would never wanta own one.
There are plenty more gear driven atvs.

Suzuki Ozark, Honda Rancher and Recon, Kawasaki Bayou are just a couple off the top of my head...and those are just utility machines.

That said, I don't think belt drives are junk, I just prefer gear driven.

I have never had a problem since 1979 (first Honda 90 I had)with a gear driven rig, but can't speak for belt drives in that I have never owned one.

I am sure it is cheaper to make a belt drive ATV, and most Americans are getting too lazy to shift gears, hence the popularity of the belt drives.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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am sure it is cheaper to make a belt drive ATV, and most Americans are getting too lazy to shift gears, hence the popularity of the belt drives. >>>>>

I took two lady friends riding yesterday, they rode my Outlander and Rincon while I rode my DS. One had never ridden before and the other has riddin with me a few times absolute novices. I wouldn't even consider messing around with trying to show them how to ride a manual shifting ATV. NOT because I don't think women can handle it but I had a G/F a couple of years ago who had NEVER even driven a manual car, I tried to get her to learn to ride my Beartracker with a 5 speed auto clutch........she had a TERRIBLE time trying to learn and after two different attempts at trying to teach her she simply gave up.
 
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