best engine braking system on a utility ATV.
#51
So yes EBS works in AWD, stated so yourself!
ADC is front wheel engine braking, a feature added in 2007.
Yes EBS and ADC at one time were options you pay extra for. I believe they are standard features now.
I'm talking newer atvs not old stuff. Can't compare an 06 without ADC to newer one.
#52
You're missing the context of the sentance- "ENGAGES ONLY THE REAR WHEELS!" In other words- it does not provide 4x4 engine braking- your front tires spin free (so you're wrong), and the atv spends most of its time skidding & slipping while decending. (which brings up the next biggest complaint- the drive train chatter while decending because the rear wheel start to hop) The only way to regain control, is to apply the (single) brake to stop all the wheels- which defeats the whole purpose of an EB- think about it. every sportsman is like this.
Even the newer ADC is one of the biggest complaints with consumers and is basically a joke- AGAIN, unless you're decending under 15 mph- and no throttle...THERE IS NO ADC, hence no down hill EB.
Which also means that you have to brake before you start your decent- Hardly an effective EB. Who rides down a hill at under 15mph
I average 20 - 25 mph down most hills, unless it's very rocky.
A steep hill alone WITH the adc activated will allow the polaris to reach speeds over 15 mph without using the brake- then your ADC is bye-bye.
Can-am EB = always there, any speed, to all 4 wheels & no brake required- I've ridden a dozen sportsman atv's from 500 - 800cc old and new, the EB (ADC) is a joke.
This debate is a no brainer dude- it's dead.
Which also means that you have to brake before you start your decent- Hardly an effective EB. Who rides down a hill at under 15mph
I average 20 - 25 mph down most hills, unless it's very rocky.A steep hill alone WITH the adc activated will allow the polaris to reach speeds over 15 mph without using the brake- then your ADC is bye-bye.
Can-am EB = always there, any speed, to all 4 wheels & no brake required- I've ridden a dozen sportsman atv's from 500 - 800cc old and new, the EB (ADC) is a joke.
This debate is a no brainer dude- it's dead.
#53
I think you miss the point! You stated EBS doesn't work in AWD, yes it does! Polaris only has EBS on the rear wheels, ADC is the for the front.
Who decends a steep hill less than 15mph?? I quess you've never ridden any x-treme black/red trails. If you can run the trail that fast you don't need EBS or ADC.
I currently own a Can Am and Polaris and compare the 2. Polaris EBS/ADC is a little better than the Can Am EBS. Won't even go there about how much better the Polaris AWD system is.
Can't help it if you don't want to admit your mighty CanAm EBS isn't the greatest.
Who decends a steep hill less than 15mph?? I quess you've never ridden any x-treme black/red trails. If you can run the trail that fast you don't need EBS or ADC.
I currently own a Can Am and Polaris and compare the 2. Polaris EBS/ADC is a little better than the Can Am EBS. Won't even go there about how much better the Polaris AWD system is.
Can't help it if you don't want to admit your mighty CanAm EBS isn't the greatest.
#54
nope- no mountains around new england
- it's all flat and level- ha ha ha. please!anyone who thinks the polaris eb is better then the can-am is just unexperienced- but you're entitled to your opinion.
The 2008 can-am visco-loc out performs the dated polaris awd any day / all day. Make sure you follow your polaris instructions decending a hill under 15mph- or you wont have any eb
- buy seriously, polaris makes a better eb-
#55
ADC and EBS are 2 differant things and you are getting them confused!
EBS if equiped works all the time, either high or low range or 2wd or awd, rear wheels only.
ADC only works with adc switched on and no throttle and under 15 mph, front wheels only.
ADC is only needed while desending very steep trails, once you figure out how to operate it correctly it works very well, better than the Can Am system. I can't believe you don't know this with all your experiance. You can control the adc with a light touch of the throttle without accellerating, makes it very easy to turn going down steep rocky stuff.
Same with the AWD systems even with the new quick viscos lok it still doesn't lock as quick or tight as the Polaris AWD.
Like I said I have both and know what works and doesn't. You can't BS me.
EBS if equiped works all the time, either high or low range or 2wd or awd, rear wheels only.
ADC only works with adc switched on and no throttle and under 15 mph, front wheels only.
ADC is only needed while desending very steep trails, once you figure out how to operate it correctly it works very well, better than the Can Am system. I can't believe you don't know this with all your experiance. You can control the adc with a light touch of the throttle without accellerating, makes it very easy to turn going down steep rocky stuff.
Same with the AWD systems even with the new quick viscos lok it still doesn't lock as quick or tight as the Polaris AWD.
Like I said I have both and know what works and doesn't. You can't BS me.
#56
ADC and EBS are 2 differant things and you are getting them confused!
EBS if equiped works all the time, either high or low range or 2wd or awd, rear wheels only.
ADC only works with adc switched on and no throttle and under 15 mph, front wheels only.
ADC is only needed while desending very steep trails, once you figure out how to operate it correctly it works very well, better than the Can Am system. I can't believe you don't know this with all your experiance. You can control the adc with a light touch of the throttle without accellerating, makes it very easy to turn going down steep rocky stuff.
Same with the AWD systems even with the new quick viscos lok it still doesn't lock as quick or tight as the Polaris AWD.
Like I said I have both and know what works and doesn't. You can't BS me.
EBS if equiped works all the time, either high or low range or 2wd or awd, rear wheels only.
ADC only works with adc switched on and no throttle and under 15 mph, front wheels only.
ADC is only needed while desending very steep trails, once you figure out how to operate it correctly it works very well, better than the Can Am system. I can't believe you don't know this with all your experiance. You can control the adc with a light touch of the throttle without accellerating, makes it very easy to turn going down steep rocky stuff.
Same with the AWD systems even with the new quick viscos lok it still doesn't lock as quick or tight as the Polaris AWD.
Like I said I have both and know what works and doesn't. You can't BS me.
Having adc working on front wheels only is not better then having an eb on all 4 like the can-am has! Polaris skids and chatters while decending because only 2 wheels are slowing it down- It's a joke and it does NOT out perform any 4 wheel eb on ANY atv make!
In regards to your point about the visco not locking up as fast as the popo awd- it's pure BS- I also owned both, and have watched countless hours of both working in shootouts- the can-am visco prior to 08 whoud not lock for about 1 revolution of the front wheels- however, in 08 that all changed and now instantly locks- and PROVIDES FULL TIME EB REGARDLESS OF SPEED OR THROTTLE!
How can you say a polaris system that only works on two wheels, only when moving slower then 15mph as long as there no throttle is better then a full time, any speed all wheel braking system??? Your point is laughable at best. I'm a pretty aggressive rider and I don't expect to have to brake hard just because I'm coming to decend a hill- and with can-am I don't have to- it's a perfect transistion everytime I come to a hill! With polaris- tou have to hit the brakes and slow down, just to activate the adc! It's a silly feature on the polaris and most polaris owners agree- just read any polaris web site!
Line the two up down a hill and watch wich one works best! guaranteed it's the can-am.
Dude- you need to research both machines a bit more and then repost. You're way outta touch with reality inregards to your "effective" polaris eb / adc. The old polaris eb system sucked- they re-engineered it and the new one sucks as well. It's 80% the reason I sold my polaris sportsman 800- it was out of control going down every hill!
#57
You still don't get it! Polaris EBS works all the time on the rear wheels! In 2wd the Can Am only has the 2 rear wheels holding back just like the Polaris.
ADC activates the front wheels for true 4 wheel engine braking! Thats both front and both rear wheels.
The Can Am doesn't have true 4 wheel drive engine braking, it has a visco front diff! When in 4wd both rear and only 1 front wheel unless you are sliding enough to build viscos pressure.
You need to do some research yourself and stop comparing a newer Can Am to an old Polaris.
YES the Can Am EB is a lot better than the old EBS equiped Polaris, but not with the new EBS/ADC.
I've never been on a hill steep enough to overpower the Polaris ADC, mine will come to a stop. Maybe your belt was slipping or you were in wrong gear/high range.
Like I said I have both and the Polaris EBS/ADC works better.
You can't compare your Can Am EBS to the Polaris with a short ride.
ADC activates the front wheels for true 4 wheel engine braking! Thats both front and both rear wheels.
The Can Am doesn't have true 4 wheel drive engine braking, it has a visco front diff! When in 4wd both rear and only 1 front wheel unless you are sliding enough to build viscos pressure.
You need to do some research yourself and stop comparing a newer Can Am to an old Polaris.
YES the Can Am EB is a lot better than the old EBS equiped Polaris, but not with the new EBS/ADC.
I've never been on a hill steep enough to overpower the Polaris ADC, mine will come to a stop. Maybe your belt was slipping or you were in wrong gear/high range.
Like I said I have both and the Polaris EBS/ADC works better.
You can't compare your Can Am EBS to the Polaris with a short ride.
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