16hp does sound way to low for the Rincon.

BTW, does $6598 (no other charges except MA sales tax) sound like a good price for a red Rincon?

thanks boys,
-MT

 

HI GUY'S:
I read about a guy on HighLifter that had his (Rincon) dyno'ed at 25HP at the rear wheels. 16HP is too low for any 650! The rubicon makes around 20hp. The Rincon is about smack dab in the middle between the Vinson @21.4HP and the Grizz660 @29.8hp to the rear wheels.


ROB

 

Darn That's still not enough power! I will definitely be adding A K&N Power Kit and Big Gun exhaust.
And yeah 6600 is a good price for A Beautiful Big Red Rincon! I've heard of good deals ranging from 6499 to 6700. Look around ALOT! and find a dealer near you that will match other dealers prices.

 

Adamwm I have hit jumps on my prairie at 50 MPH hit it on your Rincon and get the cash out for that cheap rear suspension on the Rincon ( I have seen three replaced already from jumping where we do). As for the shootout the only two things that I cannot understand is the fact the Rincon held back better in the rocks? I have a friend who has one who wishes he never would of gotten it as it has no hold back on steep hills, other than a mention of one. Also the only reason they gave for the prairie failing this is the soft front springs. Also if you read the article I am sure you would see some bias in there as they say themselves they are prone to IRS than a straight axle. And if they rated the IRS machines you would see that the Rincon is the cheapest IRS suspended machine of the three in the shootout and has the least rack weight and IS NOT A SPORT UTILITY as per Honda. Rumor has it Suzuki is going to take Artic Cats IRS and put the Kawi 650 to it. Talk about a machine......Look out Big Bores. Let's rate the IRS's for a change and lets include Artic Cat who seems to be blowing the doors off people in this arena as they have more clearance than anybody including the neighbors grand cherokee - lol look like it almost.

My experience is this and I do a lot of Quad Riding:
I would rate the Prairie 650 and the Yamaha Grizzley in a class all their own.
I would rate the Polaris 700 next it would go with the Prairie and the Yamaha if the clutch were not late engaging and weighed as much as a small jeep.
Then next I would rate the Bombardier along with the Rincon.

And I will ask all of you this get your Polaris, Bombardier or Honda on a steep hill and need that front end in the uneven and see if those front wheels will give you the traction as the Bomb and Honda must slip the opposite tire and the Polaris the rear wheels. Those things are known as 3.5 wheel drives and with Diff locks on the Praire and the Grizz you have 4 wheel digging no such option on the other three.

Now I know I will draw a flame for this but let me say this I ride with them all and I have ridden them all and we ride rides of very long length longest to date has been 20+ hours on our quads and they all will wear you out and the prairie does it no more than the rincon. The rincons only advantage on a long ride is fuel economy in most situations. In this situation the Polaris wins hands down on the long ride as the thing rides well like a jeep as the thing weighs as much as one hehe just kidding. The Bombardier is a good quad but I would not recommend one to anyone as they never tell you about how much that lil aluminum radiater that seems to stress out seems to cost $435.00 and I have replaced two for a friend when the front plastic seemed to have something to do with the crushing of it... and the Bomb seems to drag alot. The Polaris and the Grizz have the ground clearance and do not let anyone tell you any different . The Prairie place you a set of Progressive Springs on the front and the quad is as good as any other. The Rincon if you plan on going riding in the mountains and do not have one yet I would talk to someone who owns one and find out the shortfalls of the ESP as the thing absolutley is a major complaint of people around here riding. Honda only has a reputation and latley they do not have the equipment to go along with the reputation the Baja win well that was nice however if you think that quad is a premise for your trail riding the Baja is totally different than trail riding. Honda layed down because their major competitor Suzuki was not innovating ther industry and now they have let the ship pass them by as everyone and I mean everyone is innovating the industry. Artic Cat is releasing a fuel injected 500 this year, synthetic engine and drivetrain lubrication, other manufacters are releasing things such as wetbrakes, second generation IRS features such as anti roll while Honda just miniaturized the civic transmission already old technology and attempted a first generation IRS. Also I chose my Prairie for two reasons I had a 400 that had 23,000 miles on it no problems, and Popular Mechanics rated the Prairie as their ATV of the year and they did not have a kawasaki ad anywhere in their mag. They just rode the Lewis and Clark expedition on the Prairies and gave them rave reviews for the trip.

I hope this helps as I am trying to be as unbiased as I can because these quads cost as much as a little car now and I think a quad is a major decision a person must make based soley on his needs and not some rags reviews.

 

From DustinMN;

....."Adam, I have hit jumps on my prairie at 50 MPH hit it on your Rincon and get the cash out for that cheap rear suspension on the Rincon ( I have seen three replaced already from jumping where we do)........and if they rated the IRS machines you would see that the Rincon is the cheapest IRS suspended machine of the three......."

While I kind of feel that all bets are off when you start leaving the ground on anything more than an occasional basis.......................did the same part(s) bust on all three machines and what were they?

I haven't seen this problem come up before and would appreciate the insight.

Thanks,

John

 

It was somebody else who said the Rincon had 16H.P. so i took there word for it, even though i found that hard to believe, i thought rather than arguing i'd just belive them.


DustinMinnesota-you sound scared![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img]

 

Blackballed on the first one the bolts busted out of the suspension but in Honda's favor they did recall them a couple of weeks afterwards.
On the second machine we have had a lower control arm twist on right side and broke a lower shock mount on the left side of the same machine.
RINCON scared never hehe you guys need to come over for a ride the big hatfield mccoy trails are here and we all can have some fun on the quads.. However it is like I said RINCON i am just trying to give an unbiased oppinion and from things I have observed.
And Rincon i think the horsepower would be in the twenties at the rear wheel however like most Honda's someone probably said that because the power is not instant it is more spread out over the range of speed of the quad

 

Dustin,

Thanks for the reply.

John;

 

Dustin, you act as if putting an automatic trans. from a car in a quad is no big deal, well why haven't any other quad manufacturer done it yet? Surely you agree a quality automotive auto-trans. is superior to a belt drive? Do you think quads will have belt drive's forever? I don't think so, I think we have seen the last of the belt drives and all the company's will change to some type of hydraulic trans. now that Honda has taken the leap.
A few more Issue's I had with your post:
1. Ground clearance on the Rincon is 10 inches.
Prairie Ground clearance (at center of chassis/at rear axle): 9.5/7.6 in.
(so you'll hit stuff at 7.6 inches)
2. Don't waste people's time saying the Rincon has crappy suspension, every magazine review (even one's bashing the rincons lack of utility features) say the Rincon has hands down the best suspension of any utility quad and gives pure sport machines a run for their money.
3. Has ANY utility quad ever attempted a run at BAJA???(Baja is a big deal, and an indicator of tuffness/quality. (Its a torture test on the engine/trans/chassis and the Rincon definitely passed)
4. The Rincon's primary goal is to be a great trail rider, therefore 98% of the time you would use it in 2wd, there is not a great need for a locking front diff. on a trail riding quad. If you really do need one for where you ride then get a different quad! or buy an aftermarket locker.

Honda built the Rincon to be very fun and versatile at the same time, it can do a lot of things GOOD, but it EXCELS at it's primary function TRAIL RIDING.

The GOOD: haul,tow,plow,mud bog,power,speed,traction
But EXCELS at: trail riding,agresive trail riding, high speed open dessert riding,realiability,handling,transmision,comfort

The Prairie EXCELS at: Power,speed,utility,traction,etc.
But is just GOOD at: all the stuff the rincon excels at.

SO Rincon puts fun above work on it's priorities
The Prairie puts work above play.

 

I really doubt that every other manufacturer will be putting a auto or hydro tranny in their quads, I actually would be surprised to see anyone else do it. The belt system works good some better than others and is much cheaper to make and maintain. As much as we like to hate the belt drives they do work and work good.