Kansas City, Missouri - Tiffany Springs Park
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#13
hey,
i just joined the site. but this is what i've found out about the atv park in tiffany springs. check out this link. http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...l/12436278.htm it is pretty informative.
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i just joined the site. but this is what i've found out about the atv park in tiffany springs. check out this link. http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...l/12436278.htm it is pretty informative.
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#14
Thanks for the update.....hard to belive it has been over 2 years since anyone has replied to this post!!! I haven't heard anything about it but I did read the article. I also sent an email that was listed at the bottom of the article to see if there was any more news or anything I could do to help. That place was a really great place to ride with lots of different terrain.
I hate driving over an hour to have a place to ride. Anything (even if small) would be nice if it were close. It seems as soon as me and my friends find a new place that is okay to ride on, someone comes along and puts a stop to it.
I hate driving over an hour to have a place to ride. Anything (even if small) would be nice if it were close. It seems as soon as me and my friends find a new place that is okay to ride on, someone comes along and puts a stop to it.
#15
Here is the article:
ATV park proposed to preserve land
By BILL GRAHAM
The Kansas City Star
The woods were quiet Wednesday as Michael Herron walked under ancient oaks in Hidden Valley Park.
But engines had roared there.
Proof showed in ruts and eroded trails cut by motorcycles and four-wheel, all-terrain vehicles on the dirt slopes. The popular recreation vehicles threaten one of the most pristine natural forests in the metropolitan area, between Missouri 210 and Russell Road.
“If we can just keep them out, Mother Nature can do a lot of her own healing,” said Herron, North Region manager for the Kansas City Parks and Recreation Department.
Motorcycle and ATV riders also have posed problems for parks in Johnson and Jackson counties. Mountain bikes, four-wheel-drive trucks and Jeeps, and horses also have riders or drivers looking for hills and rough topography.
Such riding is forbidden in parks because it tears up soil, makes paths and spurs erosion.
The best way to prevent damage may be to create a park designed for those who want to ride off-road, Herron said, proposing an old quarry area on city land at Tiffany Springs Park and adjoining property owned by the Kansas City International Airport.
Trail damage at Hidden Valley and other parks is proof that people want a place to ride, he said.
But sanctioned sites are sparse.
In Johnson County, only Killcreek Park has an off-road-style trail, and it’s only for mountain bicycles, said Richard Niemann, a park officer.
Rangers sometimes nab ATV and motorcycle riders in Johnson County parks, Niemann said.
Jackson County has experienced problems at all of its parks. It responded by erecting barriers where riders enter and increasing ranger patrols on weekends, said Gary Salva, director for the county Parks and Recreation Department. That helped, and problems have not been significant this summer.
But Kansas City no longer has a ranger program because of cost cutting, Herron said.
The Kansas City Police Department, however, maintains an ATV-mounted patrol in the Northland, where parks are large and often isolated in semi-rural areas. But problems have persisted.
In the south, parks such as Swope Park also suffer occasional damage from the vehicles, said Dave Burke, superintendent for the South Division. But problems are not as severe as in the Northland.
Meanwhile, officials have found that barriers don’t always work.
The Missouri Department of Transportation this spring put up burial-vault size concrete blocks, joined with steel cable, where riders were entering Hidden Valley Park off Missouri 210.
“Somebody cut the cable, and somehow they managed to move one of the concrete blocks,” Herron said.
A heavier cable is to be installed.
But a park for riding might do more good, Herron said.
“By not developing a spot for people to ride,” Herron said, “we’re creating the opportunity for illegal activity.”
Herron held two meetings this spring with people interested in off-road riding. Another is planned this fall. His goal is to develop a coalition of riding groups for different types of trails and organize it into a nonprofit overseer for a riding park. The city would need help with planning, developing and maintaining the park. Rider groups would be self-policing, because Kansas City doesn’t have the funds.
“We’ve got to form a viable user organization to really build the kind of park envisioned,” Herron said.
No similar park exists in the metropolitan area, he said. The closest are in Columbia to the east and Perry Lake to the west.
“I’d say it’s desperately needed,” said Todd Posson of Kansas City, who works with a bicycling group called Earthriders. “I’m tired of repairing our mountain-bike trails because ATV users have damaged them.”
The biggest need is for ATV trails, although no one from that sport has joined Herron’s planning group, said Dave Killian of Olathe. Killian, on weekends, operates a private off-road driving area for four-wheel-drive vehicles near Fort Scott, Kan. Both Killian and Posson want to help design the Kansas City riding park.
“It’s a lofty goal, because they want us to be financially self-sufficient,” Killian said of the proposed coalition. “But we’re working toward that.”
Jackson County years ago built an unsupervised ATV park, Salva said, but heavy use quickly destroyed it.
That’s why planning with user groups is needed for Kansas City’s riding park, Herron said.
“We want to make it a model project on how you can do this the right way.”
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First glance
¦ A Kansas City parks official is proposing a riding park for all-terrain vehicles, motorcycles, four-wheel-drives, bicycles and horses at an old quarry site at Tiffany Springs Park.
¦ Any off-road riders wishing to participate in planning should call Michael Herron at (816) 513-7523, or send at e-mail to Michael_herron@kcmo.org .
ATV park proposed to preserve land
By BILL GRAHAM
The Kansas City Star
The woods were quiet Wednesday as Michael Herron walked under ancient oaks in Hidden Valley Park.
But engines had roared there.
Proof showed in ruts and eroded trails cut by motorcycles and four-wheel, all-terrain vehicles on the dirt slopes. The popular recreation vehicles threaten one of the most pristine natural forests in the metropolitan area, between Missouri 210 and Russell Road.
“If we can just keep them out, Mother Nature can do a lot of her own healing,” said Herron, North Region manager for the Kansas City Parks and Recreation Department.
Motorcycle and ATV riders also have posed problems for parks in Johnson and Jackson counties. Mountain bikes, four-wheel-drive trucks and Jeeps, and horses also have riders or drivers looking for hills and rough topography.
Such riding is forbidden in parks because it tears up soil, makes paths and spurs erosion.
The best way to prevent damage may be to create a park designed for those who want to ride off-road, Herron said, proposing an old quarry area on city land at Tiffany Springs Park and adjoining property owned by the Kansas City International Airport.
Trail damage at Hidden Valley and other parks is proof that people want a place to ride, he said.
But sanctioned sites are sparse.
In Johnson County, only Killcreek Park has an off-road-style trail, and it’s only for mountain bicycles, said Richard Niemann, a park officer.
Rangers sometimes nab ATV and motorcycle riders in Johnson County parks, Niemann said.
Jackson County has experienced problems at all of its parks. It responded by erecting barriers where riders enter and increasing ranger patrols on weekends, said Gary Salva, director for the county Parks and Recreation Department. That helped, and problems have not been significant this summer.
But Kansas City no longer has a ranger program because of cost cutting, Herron said.
The Kansas City Police Department, however, maintains an ATV-mounted patrol in the Northland, where parks are large and often isolated in semi-rural areas. But problems have persisted.
In the south, parks such as Swope Park also suffer occasional damage from the vehicles, said Dave Burke, superintendent for the South Division. But problems are not as severe as in the Northland.
Meanwhile, officials have found that barriers don’t always work.
The Missouri Department of Transportation this spring put up burial-vault size concrete blocks, joined with steel cable, where riders were entering Hidden Valley Park off Missouri 210.
“Somebody cut the cable, and somehow they managed to move one of the concrete blocks,” Herron said.
A heavier cable is to be installed.
But a park for riding might do more good, Herron said.
“By not developing a spot for people to ride,” Herron said, “we’re creating the opportunity for illegal activity.”
Herron held two meetings this spring with people interested in off-road riding. Another is planned this fall. His goal is to develop a coalition of riding groups for different types of trails and organize it into a nonprofit overseer for a riding park. The city would need help with planning, developing and maintaining the park. Rider groups would be self-policing, because Kansas City doesn’t have the funds.
“We’ve got to form a viable user organization to really build the kind of park envisioned,” Herron said.
No similar park exists in the metropolitan area, he said. The closest are in Columbia to the east and Perry Lake to the west.
“I’d say it’s desperately needed,” said Todd Posson of Kansas City, who works with a bicycling group called Earthriders. “I’m tired of repairing our mountain-bike trails because ATV users have damaged them.”
The biggest need is for ATV trails, although no one from that sport has joined Herron’s planning group, said Dave Killian of Olathe. Killian, on weekends, operates a private off-road driving area for four-wheel-drive vehicles near Fort Scott, Kan. Both Killian and Posson want to help design the Kansas City riding park.
“It’s a lofty goal, because they want us to be financially self-sufficient,” Killian said of the proposed coalition. “But we’re working toward that.”
Jackson County years ago built an unsupervised ATV park, Salva said, but heavy use quickly destroyed it.
That’s why planning with user groups is needed for Kansas City’s riding park, Herron said.
“We want to make it a model project on how you can do this the right way.”
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First glance
¦ A Kansas City parks official is proposing a riding park for all-terrain vehicles, motorcycles, four-wheel-drives, bicycles and horses at an old quarry site at Tiffany Springs Park.
¦ Any off-road riders wishing to participate in planning should call Michael Herron at (816) 513-7523, or send at e-mail to Michael_herron@kcmo.org .
#18
Originally posted by: GeminiSnickets
Greetings fellow offroad riders,
I'm actually a mountain biker from the northland, I ride at Tiffany Springs nearly 4 to 5 times a week.... I'm currently working to lease the ground... under the agreement that the ATVS and Motos will use the south side of the creek, while hikers, mountain bikes, and horses use the north side. For the useage of this ground legally, I would need insurance, which costs me money....... who here would pay a couple of bucks(I'm seriously talking like 4 bucks) to ride this ground legally.... there would also be the option of a year round pass(estimate of 50 to 75 bucks). If you could please respond with any ideas or suggestions that would be great.-Jesse
Greetings fellow offroad riders,
I'm actually a mountain biker from the northland, I ride at Tiffany Springs nearly 4 to 5 times a week.... I'm currently working to lease the ground... under the agreement that the ATVS and Motos will use the south side of the creek, while hikers, mountain bikes, and horses use the north side. For the useage of this ground legally, I would need insurance, which costs me money....... who here would pay a couple of bucks(I'm seriously talking like 4 bucks) to ride this ground legally.... there would also be the option of a year round pass(estimate of 50 to 75 bucks). If you could please respond with any ideas or suggestions that would be great.-Jesse
#20
Well, when I rode there years ago the place was quite large.....probably a few hundred acres that had trails on them. But I am not sure how big the legal riding area would be. I just remember one of the last times I was there I found a new area that I had never seen before so who knows how big it could be. It has some good hill climbs, creek, mudholes, etc.


