Kansas City, Missouri - Tiffany Springs Park
#51
Dealers are involved in the Sugar Creek plans.
A casino will bring more revenue than a ATV park,,, sorry but that is fact.
Also, getting the land is very costly and the legally issues,, NO DEALER in the city would want that headache.
Yall know how stupid some ATV riders are, Would you want to take legal responsiblity for these Idiots?
A casino will bring more revenue than a ATV park,,, sorry but that is fact.
Also, getting the land is very costly and the legally issues,, NO DEALER in the city would want that headache.
Yall know how stupid some ATV riders are, Would you want to take legal responsiblity for these Idiots?
#52
What I don't understand is the legal issues? Two reasons. First, can some lawyer some where come up with language that can be placed on a big sign at the entrace that basically says... ride at your own risk? If that doesn't work, create a corporation to do nothing but "manage" the park, wouldn't that cover the dealers exposure? If all of the Kansas City Area ATV dealers kicked in $2k each, that should cover the creation of the corporation. Stick someone in a travel trailer like they do at county owned camping areas to collect the $5 each to go for ongoing maintenance and management fees.
My $0.02
My $0.02
#53
I have a few friends that won't buy an ATV because there is no place to ride that is close. If dealers could get together and HELP open up a decent park in town then they would have A LOT more sales. I know that it is not an easy task to open a park or it would be done already. But a little sponsorship can go a long way. Look at all the off-road parks in the country....several have <u>Corporate</u> sponsors. I am in the decal business and would be willing to donate a large sign for a park in exchange for a small advertisement on the sign. I would think dealers would feel the same way if they could donate some "elbow grease".
And the insurance thing I am a little confused about. Are State parks not concerned about things like this? The 3 main place I go (Perry, Deepwater and Little Sahara) don't really have any regulations. You can ride 2-up, no helmet, etc. but I don't see any signs that say "ride at your own risk". The first 2 parks don't even charge to ride. How does insurance work on a state park compared to a private park? Insurance seems to be one of the main problems with getting a park together.
And the insurance thing I am a little confused about. Are State parks not concerned about things like this? The 3 main place I go (Perry, Deepwater and Little Sahara) don't really have any regulations. You can ride 2-up, no helmet, etc. but I don't see any signs that say "ride at your own risk". The first 2 parks don't even charge to ride. How does insurance work on a state park compared to a private park? Insurance seems to be one of the main problems with getting a park together.
#54
I thought the city of Sugar Creek voted down having a casino built there a few years ago. Maybe i'm wrong but i thought they didn't want one there so they built one up north. I have come close to selling all of our quads many times before because i hate to travel so far to ride. Once we get to where we are going we have to unload ride for what few hours are left then load up to come home. I know my kids would love to ride every weekend but it's just not possible when there isn't a riding area close by. We stopped by La Benite saturday and tried to figure out just where they would actually have the trails. Maybe south of the park? Jeff
#55
http://forums.atvconnection.com/mess...hreadid=478098
I made a post back in January about this. Bill has not heard from many and I have not either. A meeting will be made soon and I will post it so YOU and others can show up.
I made a post back in January about this. Bill has not heard from many and I have not either. A meeting will be made soon and I will post it so YOU and others can show up.
#57
.........i have not seen or heard of any updates..........still looks like we got to go to deepwater or clinton........rock on ...........[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
#58
Last I heard, cant get insurance, gonna nix the deal. And if people dont get there head out, They are gonna close down deepwater. three people had to be life flighted out of the north side between March and May. One guy didnt make.
#59
Originally posted by: GeminiSnickets
Tiffany Springs is still off limits to ANYTHING with a motor.... recently there has been a lot of ATV traffic tearing up some of the mountain bike trails/stunts. Being from the mountain bike community, I'm not exactly thrilled about this, especially considering I'm the one who built everything out there..... people are really starting to get pissed about the illegal traffic in TSP. I couldn't honestly care any less if ATV's are riding the south side of brush creek illegally, but as soon as they cross over onto the north side and start tearing up my stunts, that's where I have a problem. If anyone has ridden out there in the past few days, they will notice that quite a bit has changed to one of the favorite ATV areas....... retaliation isn't fun to deal with.
A new park was just opened up over off of 291 for ATVs and Motorcycles, I would suggest using that area and staying away from Tiffany Springs.... riding TSP illegally is only making the case against you stronger.
Tiffany Springs is still off limits to ANYTHING with a motor.... recently there has been a lot of ATV traffic tearing up some of the mountain bike trails/stunts. Being from the mountain bike community, I'm not exactly thrilled about this, especially considering I'm the one who built everything out there..... people are really starting to get pissed about the illegal traffic in TSP. I couldn't honestly care any less if ATV's are riding the south side of brush creek illegally, but as soon as they cross over onto the north side and start tearing up my stunts, that's where I have a problem. If anyone has ridden out there in the past few days, they will notice that quite a bit has changed to one of the favorite ATV areas....... retaliation isn't fun to deal with.
A new park was just opened up over off of 291 for ATVs and Motorcycles, I would suggest using that area and staying away from Tiffany Springs.... riding TSP illegally is only making the case against you stronger.
#60
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