Hey, I am trying to wheelie good on my Warrior (mods below), I can pop it up good in first....but it screms...and if I try to pop it up in second, it doesnt want to...i can lean all the way back on my grab bar and still it comes a little bit but no alot.....ive tried wheeling in first and powershifting to 2nd....not much luck....do I need more power or more practice or a little bit of both.....I can pracitce all day long and not get anywhere...ive tried it...


not looking for any quick responses, just some opinions and ways to do them would be helpful

 

umm, more power is all i can say, if its not there its not there, did u try stand on ur grab bar

 

Hardly any of those mods actually add power. The 22s probably arent helping but the 12 tooth should cancel them out. Mine would always wheelie a bit, but after I got the .450 cam, I had a 15 tooth on the front, stock rear. I could punch it in second and it would just keep coming up till you either shifted or hit the grab bar. I could also get it up in 3rd with a light tug, and in 4th with a big tug and throwing my weight (not the safest thing to do). Im sure the 10.25:1 piston was helping a bit but I rode a bike with equal mods but minus the cam. It was a night and day difference. The major dif was mine felt like it had more torque? funny huh. Of course with the .450 cams you can adjust them for more or less torque with the timing.

 

Nah, his setup is plenty good enough.

I spent quite a bit of time on my buddies Warrior....in stock form and now with an alba slip on. With the slip on it feels similar to my 400ex....slightly longer wheelbase so yeah it doesn't come up "quite" as easy, but it's not too bad.

Sounds like you have to work on your smoothness....that's really important with wheelies. You say you have practiced a lot, so I'm guessing you are pretty familiar with the balance point....If not, keep practicing. For 1st gear wheelies, a good trick is to get the quad up to balance point as quick as you can, with one quick whack of the throttle. It's easy to run out of RPM's in first, so if you fight to get the quad to balance point more than likely you are already at the point where you are just about hitting the rev limiter. Anyway, like I said, get the quad up as quick as you can, and once it's up there try to keep it there using the throttle as little as possible, and avoid "blipping" it. Once you are at balance point you should barely have to touch the throttle. With more practice you will learn brake control and clutch control...which you'll also have to learn to stay really smooth with.

Timing is also really important....especially when pulling the quad up in higher gears. You'll want the quad running just below the power band...probably 1/4 throttle or so.....you want to shift your weight to the back of the quad (kind of "bounce" on the seat) and pull on the handlebars while nailing the throttle. Should come up no problem in 2nd. 3rd is gonna be a little harder, but you can still do it on your quad.

I dunno....I learned wheelies and got really good at them before really knowing how to use the rear brake and I never had problems, but I think that it's an important technique to learn as soon as possible.

One other thing is confidence....even if you over do it and end up on the grab bar....more than likely you'll be just fine. It's possible for the quad to catch and flip sideways, but if you are doing slow 1st gear wheelies on level ground you'll be all set. Going back to learning the brakes....pick a nice level spot and keep popping the quad up, purposely passed the balance point, and hit the brake to bring it back down. For me, hitting the brakes wasn't a natural reaction at first....after practicing for an hour or so, it starting coming to me, and now it's an instant reaction that I have.

I know you said you practice a lot, but that's the most important thing. Keep it up man.

I'm really tired so hopefully some of this makes a little bit of sense. Take it easy.

-Josh

 

Thanks for the replies guys..lol....and thanks josh.... told how to do a wheelie from the guy who can prolly do them better than anyone on here....I appreciate all the responses....I have never really found the balance point...i'm beting i need to get it up higher but I will try.....as long as my shock comes today....3 weeks since I ordered it and they said 2 to 3 weeks.

 

Yeah man, you'll get it.

The balance point on a warrior is pretty high, but it seems like the higher the balance point the easier it is to keep it there....Hard to explain how to tell when you get there...it's all about feeling. Since you haven't gotten used to it, it'll probably feel like the point where you are about to go over backwards.

If you have to give the quad gas, and are constantly speeding up in a wheelie, you are below balance point. At balance point you don't have to give it a lot of gas, and the quad shouldn't be accelerating...you can keep a constant speed in any gear (including 1st) and ride it "forever".

If you want to read some more tips, there are a few posts on our message board at WWW.CVBOYZ.COM, that talk about wheelies and some of my buddies and I have responded. As many times as I've talked to people about wheelies and stuff, for some reason I always draw a blank when trying to explain how to do them in text. My first reply to your question could have been a lot better.....

I guess you'll just have to drive up here to VT and I'll show ya.

 

The warrior definetly has enough power to come up in 2nd gear.I almost flipped mine over the first time I raced it.I was taking off in 2nd.

 

I can pull my wolverine up in second with a little effort. I have no doubt that your warrior can do it with ease. Timing is the most important thing. You'll find a certain speed that is a "sweet spot" for lifting the front end. When you find this spot just gas it and pull back at the same time.

Also it is much easier to keep the bike up in second once you reach the balance point.

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Good info, I've also just been getting used to my Warrior and trying to do some wheelie's. Pretty much at the same boat, I guess I just get scared when I get up to high so I never like to get it that high. Sounds like I'm not getting up there to get the balancing point. My buddy who is alot better with wheelie's took mine out the first day and did a mad wheelie on it, guess its all in practice, but a wheelie is something that has great use on trails at times as I've seen with him. I've seen him hop over small crossings, tree's and other stuff just by getting the front end up and out of the road. Good stuff though ....

 

Good News...I was just out doing some wheelies in my backyard wit my friend..I had armor all on my seat and i was in second, ditched the clutch, it came right up...i slid to the grab bar..and rode it for like a couple feet...but i think i got the balance point....thanks guys..My friend was doing them with one foot on the grab bar and on foot in the air...pretty cool....