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Shifting ??????

Old Apr 15, 2004 | 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by: garyc660R
Originally posted by: DanDaMAn
OK-Guys I know this is a dumb question but i need your helpI just purchased a yfz450 and i want it to know if it's safe to shift with out releasing the gas ?Is it safe ?Or i would be better shifting just like a normal manual transmisison car ?
REREAD this question. It mentions NOTHING about NOT using the clutch. In response too the question, you should be able too leave the throttle wide open while using the clutch too shift on any performance oriented atv if you are an experienced rider. If not, the atv in question has some design issues.
Using the clutch or not, Keeping the throttle wide open still keeps torque on the drive side of the gears, and when you slip it in, they will be going different speeds and thus this is how we mess up syncromesh. I would advise to just shift like you would your porche.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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Explain too me how torque is applied too the gearset if the clutch is functioning properly and pulled in? If one was not relieving pressure the machine would not shift up...and you could very well do damage by forcing the gear change without the clutch. BUT, thats a different story...I am saying USE the clutch.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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Lets put this in simpler terms for him Gary.

1st go fast
2nd apply clutch
3rd shift up
4th engage clutch
5th go fast
6th refer to 2nd


Same applies no matter what throttle you change gears at

The gears are meant to come together while moving, and just because your friend powershifted and bombed your quad doesnt mean you cant use a clutch and shift at high rpm's. Me and 100000's of other riders do it while riding. If they are performance machines why would you not let them perform and baby those gears?
 
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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Good post..[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img]
That is my point.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by: XxDumontRaptorxX
Lets put this in simpler terms for him Gary.

1st go fast
2nd apply clutch
3rd shift up
4th engage clutch
5th go fast
6th refer to 2nd


Same applies no matter what throttle you change gears at

The gears are meant to come together while moving, and just because your friend powershifted and bombed your quad doesnt mean you cant use a clutch and shift at high rpm's. Me and 100000's of other riders do it while riding. If they are performance machines why would you not let them perform and baby those gears?

I agree entirly.

good post dumont raptor.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 01:39 AM
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Alright. I got It now

Another question ?

Is it normal that when you shift in to first gear it's a bit hard and when it engages the bike kind of kicks a bit or is the idle set to high
 
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 02:10 AM
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into first gear or out of first gear?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 02:52 AM
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INTO FIRST GEAR after that everything else it's fine
 
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 03:26 AM
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I never heard of anything like that ?

but I dont know much about the yfz.

so you probably want to ask someone who has one.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 06:38 AM
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Ok my bad, I kinda put that wrong, there wouldn't be torque on the gear sets when you use thhe clutch, however not releasing the gas will result in a situation simular to popping the clutch every time you shift, which then puts much more torque on the egars than they may handle over time. This is just my opinion. And as for your hard shift into first, if this is like a sudden "kick" when you shift it, I would say your clutch isn't fully engaged when you pull in the lever. Fix this by tightening up the clutch a bit, And when you pull it, It will engage fully.
 
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