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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 01:09 AM
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Sounds simple enough to me, but these other hard headed fools still won't understand. I think most of you are only reading half my posts befor you make some stupid comment that doesn't apply to a bike with a self limiting device. A stock 1600dp vw bug only has 63hp, but it'll still do 90 mph in a car that weighs over 1700 lbs. But a quad at 1/4 that weight with almost half that hp can't do 70? Come on? You really think there is that much "resistance" that it can't hit rev limit in 5th?
Btw craZ, if you want to drag and let me put your punk-@$$ where it belongs
What's the matter, I prove you stupid, so you resort to wanting to race? WTF, I'm just trying to get everyone to accept the fact a stock z will run 70-71, not that it'll smoke everything else. Remove head from a$$ then post.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 03:07 AM
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Originally posted by: craZ400
Sounds simple enough to me, but these other hard headed fools still won't understand. I think most of you are only reading half my posts befor you make some stupid comment that doesn't apply to a bike with a self limiting device. A stock 1600dp vw bug only has 63hp, but it'll still do 90 mph in a car that weighs over 1700 lbs. But a quad at 1/4 that weight with almost half that hp can't do 70? Come on? You really think there is that much "resistance" that it can't hit rev limit in 5th?
Btw craZ, if you want to drag and let me put your punk-@$$ where it belongs
What's the matter, I prove you stupid, so you resort to wanting to race? WTF, I'm just trying to get everyone to accept the fact a stock z will run 70-71, not that it'll smoke everything else. Remove head from a$$ then post.
First of all, the race invitation is to prove to you that your z will not run 70-71 bone stock, if you would prefer, we can get a gps to find out how fast you're really going. Need I also point out that (to a point) the hp of the motor doesnt necessarily determine the top speed potential. The gearing does. If they had geared the 1600 bug to do 150, i bet it could do it, but it would take about 10 minutes, same goes for the Z. If suzuki had geared it to go 71, theres no doubt in my mind that it would do 71, but it would take longer to get there than it takes to get to (what I believe is it's stock top speed of...) 66 or 67. If they had geared it to only go 50 mph, it would do it, and it would get there fast as he!!, but it doesnt matter how much horsepower the motor has, if its geared for 50, it'll only go 50, whether you have 20hp or 100. In that sense, all hp changes is how fast you get there. The 64mph claim was a little low, I'll admit, but it wasn't a tested and proven number, it was an estimate and a number that I hear a lot associated with stock Z's.

BTW, I'm just dyin to know what "wooo woooo" means.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 03:12 AM
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You are correct in saying that HP does not have bearing on top speed, assuming max RPM's are reached. But if a motor does not have enough HP to reach maximum RPM's, it is limiting top speed.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 03:40 AM
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Yes, and how many machines out there are capable of hitting the rev limiter in top gear. I don't know any STOCK machines that can. Enlighten me
 
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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Now a day with 15MPH wind going with me may help me get to this limiter faster, but with a 15MPH against me it will take me longer, but in the end, going the same speed AS LONG AS IM ABLE TO REACH THE SAME RPM'S!!!!
Nobody has argued that fact, it just takes an Excel sheet for craZ400 to understand it but i guess this comes with his degree...



You really think there is that much "resistance" that it can't hit rev limit in 5th?
If you gear it to theorically reach 100mph beleive me it wont even come close to hit the rev limiter and a stock one will never hit 100mph unless you have a 60mph wind at your back or are going down a steep hill.Dont beleive me? No problem try it yourself Einstein...
 
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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I dont want o get into this but a stock Z will run about 70mph. My buddy ran his next to my motorcycle and it topped out right at 70.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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If a quad can do 70mph at 8,500 with a 100 lb rider then if you put a 300 lb rider on and it can still hit 8,500 rpm it will still be doing 70 mph period !! The only thing weight and wind resistance will effect is the machines ability to reach 8,500 rpm. Wind and weight don't change gearing so no matter how much each rider would weigh it will still go the same speed at any given rpm. If it will do 60 at 7,000 with a 300 lb rider it will still only be going 60 at 7,000 with a 100 lb rider. It doesn't matter if it is a car or a quad, If a truck is doing 60 at 2,000 rpm empty it will still be doing 60 at 2,000 rpm with an 8,000 lb trailer. The only thing the wind and weight will do is either lengthen the amount of time it takes to reach the rpm or make the engine not be capable of reaching the rpm. I can't speak for what the actual speeds of the quads would be, But as far as his other statements go craZ400 is correct.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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Johnny, the z is geared to hit 70-71, that little z calc site tells you that.

Costumfab, would you say that the speedo on p650's are close to accurate? Cuz if they are, then the 3 p650s and 1 p700 I ride with all say I'm doing 70-71, cuz I pass them when they're doing 68-69. Takes a while, but I pass them.

ImBack, you have been arguing that point all along.

Bulldogz400, motox26, and Thunderbolt, thank you.

Someone as "smart" as you seem to think you are would know and understand why you will never get a stock Raptor to hit 100mph no matter what gearing it is running...In fact you will never get a stock Raptor or any other sport quads on the market today to hit 100mph with gearing changes and a different rev limiter,they just dont have the power to do so
A 36hp 400lb quad can't, but a 63hp 2000lb car can? I still believe a raptor has the power to weight ratio to do it. Hell a vulcan 750 only has 64hp and it'll do 140mph. but according to your math, a rappy would need that much just to break 90mph. Can any one else tell me why this don't add up? And by the way, once you change anything on a quad, it's no longer stock now is it.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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Banshee ......

That is my vote.

What did I win?

No offense guys, but in the end all your effort will mean absolutely nothing. It will all be forgotten. Now lets just ride!
 
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by: LTZ400guy
No offense guys, but in the end all your effort will mean absolutely nothing. It will all be forgotten. Now lets just ride!
I like what he said, just think about how much faster we are then those with out.
 
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