I'll admit I called fastlane a punk, but he was being a smarta$$ posting that link that inadvertantly disproved himself. Yes, it was a little childish on my part, but tattling to papa Thunderbolt? Now who's the child?

 

You have been a smarta$$ in pretty much every posts i have seen from you so your point is?



The tests were made with a Banshee, we had 15-16-17 fronts and 41-40 rear sprockets.Once we installed the 16 in the front and 40 in the rear that was it,we couldnt gain anything speedwise with higher gearing, the 17 front was not allowing us to go any faster.The tests were made on a mile and a half road strip (pavement) to make sure we were indeed reaching top speed on our last run we clocked the Shee at 1 mile and then at 1.5 mile we werent gaining anything.I think ATVs are extremely aerodynamically innefficient and this is why it is very difficult to "greatly" improve on their top speeds.My 500cc T-REX engine puts out around 95-100hp in the state of tune it is now wich is comparable to todays 600cc sports bikes and I would never ever be capable to match their top speed potential no matter what gearing I would be using.

 

Like I said I don't no diddly about quads just using my experience with other machines.

 

Before we ran these tests I also beleived you could gear a stock sport ATV to go over 100mph...I dont anymore, you may be able to achieve it with a Zilla but I was talking about ATVs that are still in production here.

 

Yours doesn't....

 

Talk about the pot and the kettle. Maybe so, but I'm not about to post a link to a web site that would disprove my statement, and let the person I'm arguing with call me on my lack of knowledge on the subject.

Heres a question, what is the initial gear reduction, and top gear ratio of your shee? And what top speed did you finally end up hitting?

They might still be stamping out parts for the shee, but r&d closed there doors on it years ago. Even the warrior got new skins, why didn't the almighty shee?

 

To the plastics question, they didn't bother giving the shee a new skin because they really dont give a **** anymore because its got 1.5 years of production left. Why waste money for new molds and the development of the design itself if they still sell great and die hards (like myself) dont care if ppl think they're ugly, AND if they wont even be making it that much longer anyway? I would like to point out that anything at all that changes the performance of a quad in any way is a mod (see "modification"), so to me, a sprocket change may be still harnessing the stock power of the bike, but it does change the performance so the bike is no longer stock. Yes I even apply this theory to fender cutting. Just MHO.

I cant take you too seriously though, craZ, after reading a post of yours that stated "nothing stock can touch a rappy". You must be forgetting banshees, ds's, hell, even KFX700's come pretty close. I will admit that you stated a number of important factors in speed calculating that I had overlooked or ignored. I apologize for my part in the name calling, but I really dont think it was undeserved. In the end, although maybe a Z/KFX is a somewhat better opponent for the shee than I anticipated, I would give no second thought to saying that a shee is the undisputed winner of a race.

Btw, you still never told me what "wooo woooo" means

 

Everything you need to know is in my previous post, im done with this top speed talk if you dont beleive my numbers do your own testing thats all.

Sadly you are terribly wrong once again, no sport ATV except the 250r wich is a close second has been through as much (and is still going through alot of it) r&d than the Banshee...The only thing you need from the original machine to build yourself a totally custom Banshee is the tranny and some companies right now are considering the idea of building an aftermarket one, HP numbers are getting too high and we are starting to see some tranny failures because of it.

The aftermarket parts we are talking here went through alot of r&d and are of extremely high quality, if you take a look at my engines one is a 4mm 421cc Cheetah putting out a very reliable 80hp on gas while the other is a 7mm 500cc T-REX engine putting out 90-100hp on gas and is also very reliable.Both engines use powervalves, the T-REX engine uses a billet stroker crank,the Cheetah cylinders are nikasil plated. Now tell me if this isnt r&d to you???

The same can be said about pretty much every parts imaginable, you want a frame with the 250r geometry just buy it, it is called the Outlaw. You want an aluminum frame, no problem they make them.You want a titanium frame still no problem they make em also.

You want a long travel front suspension no problem either a few companies make them, do you prefer a -2 or +12 swing-arm, do you want it made of chromoly,aluminum or titanium, just pick the one you want they make them all.Do you really want me to go on because it could probably last for two full pages...

The r&d that has taken place and is still taking place when it comes to the Banshee has never been matched and probably never will be, just because Yamaha hasnt participated doesnt mean anything.

 

i can probly explain it...a while ago, cnn or something did a thing on something called a whistle tip, makes a loud whislte sound from fitting something in the end part of a car exhaust, rather annoying, and one guy the interviewed his name was bub rub or something...he started that whole...and the whistle goes "woo woo"

and i think i still have that vid on my comp...if u know somewhere i can upload it...u can see

 

My Polaris trailboss has 24" tires and my Honda fourtrax has 25" tires. If I take the 24" and put them on my Honda, will I notice a significant power increase (well torque anyways?)