YFZ vs BANSHEE
Sep 14, 2005 | 12:36 AM
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YFZ vs BANSHEE
I personally do not see why us Yamaha brethren are fighting. Damn sure a 450r isnt going to beat a Banshee. Cant we all just get along.
I think its pretty good a quad from the mid 80s can still keep up and usually beat the quads from today. The motor in the Banshee is from the early 60s if Im not mistaken (RD350 or RZ350 I think).
Unbiased truth........I beat most YFZs but not all. Some are fast, some not as fast. It takes more than a pipe and a filter to beat a Banshee with a pipe and filter. The race will be close and if the Banshee screws up, its over but the Banshee will still win. Now do the cam mod or put in the YZF cam......those are the ones who usually beat me. If I get some porting and bigger carbs then..........
This is from my personal experience at Dumont up comp hill. Flat ground is different. Either way, there will always be a Banshee that will be the fastest at the hill. Banshees are ultimate drag quads.
I think its pretty good a quad from the mid 80s can still keep up and usually beat the quads from today. The motor in the Banshee is from the early 60s if Im not mistaken (RD350 or RZ350 I think).
Unbiased truth........I beat most YFZs but not all. Some are fast, some not as fast. It takes more than a pipe and a filter to beat a Banshee with a pipe and filter. The race will be close and if the Banshee screws up, its over but the Banshee will still win. Now do the cam mod or put in the YZF cam......those are the ones who usually beat me. If I get some porting and bigger carbs then..........
This is from my personal experience at Dumont up comp hill. Flat ground is different. Either way, there will always be a Banshee that will be the fastest at the hill. Banshees are ultimate drag quads.
Sep 14, 2005 | 04:50 AM
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Good grief!!
Just let it DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just let it DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sep 14, 2005 | 05:31 AM
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Sep 14, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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YFZ vs BANSHEE
Originally posted by: 2fun
Good grief!!
Just let it DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Good grief!!
Just let it DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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AMEN!
Sep 16, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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YFZ vs BANSHEE
MY MY MY!! We have some very ignorant people coming on here, that or they are in denile. A YFZ will hands down whoop a banshee stock. There is absolutely NO question. We ride with banshees all the time, and I personally have a lot of time on the banshee. I have owned it, the raptor and now the yfz. The yfz is the better and faster of the two.
The banshee is a great machine and very fast, especially when tuned. BUT, untill you get into the motor on the banshee, it will not beat a yfz in a 300 ft drag. Those of you that keep saying that with like $500 a banshee will cream a yfz are quit frankly WRONG. If you put an exhaust, intake w/o lid, and do some jetting you will be faster on a yfz than on a bolt on modified banshee. YES, without a doubt, IMO, the banshee can be made into a FAR better drag racer than a yfz, but for most of us, where not out to make drag racing ONLY quads.
THere was a day of the banshee (actually many days, ha ha) but its time is far over. The yfz will just simply out perform it in every way. People really like the topspeed of the banshee, over the yfz. WELL, stock for stock, the banshee is usually infact 1-2 mph faster than the yfz................do you know how long it takes to use that 1-2mph advantage stock vs stock. LONGER THAN ANY DRAG RACE I HAVE EITHER DONE OR SEEN.
Those of you who dont already know this, if you are concerned with topspeed and having banshee's kill you in a all out race, you can simply install a 15 tooth front sprocket, and be hovering right about 88mph, and 89-90mph with a high rev limiter (cdi), keeping the stock 20 inch rear tires. You will feel very little difference down low, except that you can hold gears for a whole lot longer and that it keeps pulling and pulling. If you have the normal add ons, exhaust, intake, and jetting you have more than enough power to pull the 15! The 15 tooth front sprocket is highly recomended especially for the dunes. The yfz is just too short geared for open terrain like dunes, it was meant for the track. From experience, you can not alter the banshee's gearing too much, otherwise you "rob paul to pay peter" (you take power from the "non-exsistent" bottem end, to put it up top)
I would also like to state a FACT, that stock banshee's dont usually exceed the factory limited 75-76 mph mark STOCK. Stock yfz's will not exceed the factory limited 75mph, and usually fall short of it at about 74pmh. That being said, do yourself a favor, and go to everything2stroke.com, and use there gearing calculator. You will see that banshee owners that claim these rediculously bogus topspeeds are doing just that!! Find out for yourself how fast a banshee will go, gearing limited!! IT DOSE NOT MATTER IF YOU HAVE 190hspwr IN A BANSHEE, IF YOU HAVE STOCK GEARING YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET OUT OF THE 80'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just face the facts, times have changed and the banshee is not a superior machine, especially when compared to the YFZ450!!
The banshee is a great machine and very fast, especially when tuned. BUT, untill you get into the motor on the banshee, it will not beat a yfz in a 300 ft drag. Those of you that keep saying that with like $500 a banshee will cream a yfz are quit frankly WRONG. If you put an exhaust, intake w/o lid, and do some jetting you will be faster on a yfz than on a bolt on modified banshee. YES, without a doubt, IMO, the banshee can be made into a FAR better drag racer than a yfz, but for most of us, where not out to make drag racing ONLY quads.
THere was a day of the banshee (actually many days, ha ha) but its time is far over. The yfz will just simply out perform it in every way. People really like the topspeed of the banshee, over the yfz. WELL, stock for stock, the banshee is usually infact 1-2 mph faster than the yfz................do you know how long it takes to use that 1-2mph advantage stock vs stock. LONGER THAN ANY DRAG RACE I HAVE EITHER DONE OR SEEN.
Those of you who dont already know this, if you are concerned with topspeed and having banshee's kill you in a all out race, you can simply install a 15 tooth front sprocket, and be hovering right about 88mph, and 89-90mph with a high rev limiter (cdi), keeping the stock 20 inch rear tires. You will feel very little difference down low, except that you can hold gears for a whole lot longer and that it keeps pulling and pulling. If you have the normal add ons, exhaust, intake, and jetting you have more than enough power to pull the 15! The 15 tooth front sprocket is highly recomended especially for the dunes. The yfz is just too short geared for open terrain like dunes, it was meant for the track. From experience, you can not alter the banshee's gearing too much, otherwise you "rob paul to pay peter" (you take power from the "non-exsistent" bottem end, to put it up top)
I would also like to state a FACT, that stock banshee's dont usually exceed the factory limited 75-76 mph mark STOCK. Stock yfz's will not exceed the factory limited 75mph, and usually fall short of it at about 74pmh. That being said, do yourself a favor, and go to everything2stroke.com, and use there gearing calculator. You will see that banshee owners that claim these rediculously bogus topspeeds are doing just that!! Find out for yourself how fast a banshee will go, gearing limited!! IT DOSE NOT MATTER IF YOU HAVE 190hspwr IN A BANSHEE, IF YOU HAVE STOCK GEARING YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET OUT OF THE 80'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just face the facts, times have changed and the banshee is not a superior machine, especially when compared to the YFZ450!!
Sep 16, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by: 135boom
MY MY MY!! We have some very ignorant people coming on here, that or they are in denile. A YFZ will hands down whoop a banshee stock. There is absolutely NO question. We ride with banshees all the time, and I personally have a lot of time on the banshee. I have owned it, the raptor and now the yfz. The yfz is the better and faster of the two.
The banshee is a great machine and very fast, especially when tuned. BUT, untill you get into the motor on the banshee, it will not beat a yfz in a 300 ft drag. Those of you that keep saying that with like $500 a banshee will cream a yfz are quit frankly WRONG. If you put an exhaust, intake w/o lid, and do some jetting you will be faster on a yfz than on a bolt on modified banshee. YES, without a doubt, IMO, the banshee can be made into a FAR better drag racer than a yfz, but for most of us, where not out to make drag racing ONLY quads.
THere was a day of the banshee (actually many days, ha ha) but its time is far over. The yfz will just simply out perform it in every way. People really like the topspeed of the banshee, over the yfz. WELL, stock for stock, the banshee is usually infact 1-2 mph faster than the yfz................do you know how long it takes to use that 1-2mph advantage stock vs stock. LONGER THAN ANY DRAG RACE I HAVE EITHER DONE OR SEEN.
Those of you who dont already know this, if you are concerned with topspeed and having banshee's kill you in a all out race, you can simply install a 15 tooth front sprocket, and be hovering right about 88mph, and 89-90mph with a high rev limiter (cdi), keeping the stock 20 inch rear tires. You will feel very little difference down low, except that you can hold gears for a whole lot longer and that it keeps pulling and pulling. If you have the normal add ons, exhaust, intake, and jetting you have more than enough power to pull the 15! The 15 tooth front sprocket is highly recomended especially for the dunes. The yfz is just too short geared for open terrain like dunes, it was meant for the track. From experience, you can not alter the banshee's gearing too much, otherwise you "rob paul to pay peter" (you take power from the "non-exsistent" bottem end, to put it up top)
I would also like to state a FACT, that stock banshee's dont usually exceed the factory limited 75-76 mph mark STOCK. Stock yfz's will not exceed the factory limited 75mph, and usually fall short of it at about 74pmh. That being said, do yourself a favor, and go to everything2stroke.com, and use there gearing calculator. You will see that banshee owners that claim these rediculously bogus topspeeds are doing just that!! Find out for yourself how fast a banshee will go, gearing limited!! IT DOSE NOT MATTER IF YOU HAVE 190hspwr IN A BANSHEE, IF YOU HAVE STOCK GEARING YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET OUT OF THE 80'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just face the facts, times have changed and the banshee is not a superior machine, especially when compared to the YFZ450!!
MY MY MY!! We have some very ignorant people coming on here, that or they are in denile. A YFZ will hands down whoop a banshee stock. There is absolutely NO question. We ride with banshees all the time, and I personally have a lot of time on the banshee. I have owned it, the raptor and now the yfz. The yfz is the better and faster of the two.
The banshee is a great machine and very fast, especially when tuned. BUT, untill you get into the motor on the banshee, it will not beat a yfz in a 300 ft drag. Those of you that keep saying that with like $500 a banshee will cream a yfz are quit frankly WRONG. If you put an exhaust, intake w/o lid, and do some jetting you will be faster on a yfz than on a bolt on modified banshee. YES, without a doubt, IMO, the banshee can be made into a FAR better drag racer than a yfz, but for most of us, where not out to make drag racing ONLY quads.
THere was a day of the banshee (actually many days, ha ha) but its time is far over. The yfz will just simply out perform it in every way. People really like the topspeed of the banshee, over the yfz. WELL, stock for stock, the banshee is usually infact 1-2 mph faster than the yfz................do you know how long it takes to use that 1-2mph advantage stock vs stock. LONGER THAN ANY DRAG RACE I HAVE EITHER DONE OR SEEN.
Those of you who dont already know this, if you are concerned with topspeed and having banshee's kill you in a all out race, you can simply install a 15 tooth front sprocket, and be hovering right about 88mph, and 89-90mph with a high rev limiter (cdi), keeping the stock 20 inch rear tires. You will feel very little difference down low, except that you can hold gears for a whole lot longer and that it keeps pulling and pulling. If you have the normal add ons, exhaust, intake, and jetting you have more than enough power to pull the 15! The 15 tooth front sprocket is highly recomended especially for the dunes. The yfz is just too short geared for open terrain like dunes, it was meant for the track. From experience, you can not alter the banshee's gearing too much, otherwise you "rob paul to pay peter" (you take power from the "non-exsistent" bottem end, to put it up top)
I would also like to state a FACT, that stock banshee's dont usually exceed the factory limited 75-76 mph mark STOCK. Stock yfz's will not exceed the factory limited 75mph, and usually fall short of it at about 74pmh. That being said, do yourself a favor, and go to everything2stroke.com, and use there gearing calculator. You will see that banshee owners that claim these rediculously bogus topspeeds are doing just that!! Find out for yourself how fast a banshee will go, gearing limited!! IT DOSE NOT MATTER IF YOU HAVE 190hspwr IN A BANSHEE, IF YOU HAVE STOCK GEARING YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET OUT OF THE 80'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just face the facts, times have changed and the banshee is not a superior machine, especially when compared to the YFZ450!!
Well said! Althought I donno bout the YFZ going 90 mph with just a 15 tooth sprocket, but other than that, well said!
